Mor-on medical stuff

[Neighbor]

Hi, I know the subject of vaccines and plagues, endemic or pandemic,  and epidemic threads have been done near to death BUT;....

I am just now catching up on some of the details of the subject even as present newscasts are telling us of measles coming back.

I took the "big pharma" vaccines for Covid three times, didn't take the fourth, nor did I get a flu shot this time; and I have spent the past three month before this one  sick, as sick as I have ever been. But from what? Seems I had nearly every symptom of all three diseases that are going around. My Doctor has told me what I went through is typical of this winter's affect on many people.

 I am now hesitant to attribute my last few months to either having previous vaccines,  or to not getting them this time around. Seems God has allowed me recovery and I am suddenly not lethargic, but instead suddenly filled with energy. So I guess I give thanks in the good and in the bad, as did Job.

But I have become interested in the politics and legal  conflicts of what some call big Pharma:

To that end I have bought two books as a start, both by my now personally favored candidate for US president Robert F. Kennedy Jr. titled the Real Anthony Fauci and Vax-Unvax Let the Science Speak. And I have invested a few hours watching videos where RFK Jr. is either interviewed or speaking.

I must say it is a tough one for me to re-evaluate information of this sort in that a family member  spent decades getting approvals for an area of medical devices, about thirty years worth. Though not directly involved, I was quite aware or thought I was  during those times.

And as I read  just the beginning of these two  JFK Jr. books my mind flashes back to the processes  that I did have awareness of for some time. And I am already a bit floored by what I did NOT know.

Ha, this turning 80  is a rather enlightening experience -so far. These old eyes being challenged to read all the more as example. I wonder how come I have not been taken home  already, and yet I am led to suddenly battle to be more active of mind, body, and spirit as I think of my own adult children and grand..

Though I see the challenges of today to be greater than any challenge of my lifetime, I am also seeing  a glimmer of great hope in that I think we all are going to be forced into the forefront of the battle. The full armor of God will be needed, and each of us not yet called home had better be well prepared in how to use it. As the secular saying goes hang on it's going to be a bumpy ride.

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"For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

ASV

 

 

[AnOrangeCat]

3 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Though I see the challenges of today to be greater than any challenge of my lifetime, I am also seeing  a glimmer of great hope in that I think we all are going to be forced into the forefront of the battle. The full armor of God will be needed, and each of us not yet called home had better be well prepared in how to use it. As the secular saying goes hang on it's going to be a bumpy ride.

This is the way I feel about it as well. I believe you're quite right in saying America is post-Christian. We still have a semblance of it, but it's going to get really ugly if/when (I personally think it's when but can't claim the ability to see the future, alas) we lose even that.

But more on the big pharma topic it's interesting, and I think the concerns about it are legit, but also probably nothing new. The only things that have changed IMO are the degree and scale of it. There's similar going on in tech: developers are racing toward things with little concern for consequences and a probably inadequate degree of testing and regulation. The history of both tech and medicine have some decisions that seem really ill thought out looking on them today, like cocaine being considered medicinal, DDT being promoted as safe for home use, and others.

[FJK]

Sometimes catching one disease gives us an immunity that prevents another one that is worse.

But as for vaccines, I haven't had a vaccine in well over 50 years (had to have them to be discharged from the army, but nothing since) and I haven't caught anything that there is a vaccination for (only thing of any significance I've caught was from a mosquito bite and there wasn't and still isn't a vaccine for it anyway).

FWIW, I've been around people dropping right and left from the flu but never been even slightly affected by it.  I just don't catch things, I think that vaccines actually affect the immune system negatively by interfering with its natural response to the environment and initiating an artificial one in its place, but that's just my thinking and has no medical reasoning behind it.  I neither recommend nor discourage vaccines for anybody, everyone should just think for themselves and make their own decisions is what I would prefer.

There are certain nutritional substances that I take as well so I can't just credit it to a powerful immune system by itself.

Hope you stay well and continue gaining liveliness.

 

[Neighbor]

Yep. The idea that with AI, and  DNA knowledge awareness, today's "vaccines"  can be designed  that will help one race while  hindering or even doing great damage to  another is way scary.

Seems almost like spraying the lawn for weeds; certain races being considered and then  likened to weeds. How near infinitely deep the depths of evil  that is possible is something my mind does not want to fathom. To even try to take measure of the depth  of depravity possible is painful to my mind.

But I feel need to explore is this so? Can it be that even if possible, anyone would do so? Gives meaning to the words depraved debauchery that I had not known before.

Lord help us in these times of the signs. Maranatha!

[AnOrangeCat]

1 minute ago, FJK said:

FWIW, I've been around people dropping right and left from the flu but never been even slightly affected by it.  I just don't catch things, I think that vaccines actually affect the immune system negatively by interfering with its natural response to the environment and initiating an artificial one in its place, but that's just my thinking and has no medical reasoning behind it.  I neither recommend nor discourage vaccines for anybody, everyone should just think for themselves and make their own decisions is what I would prefer.

I somewhat fall into the same camp. I'm okay with most vaccines because the intent is to stimulate the immune system into doing what it does naturally, but I prefer to avoid antibiotics where possible. Those are actually known to potentially interfere with immune processes. Both have a place in medicine, but that place isn't always identified correctly and leaves us with problems. As the world grows more wicked and tech gets weirder (check out the wikipedia entry on xenobots sometime) I get increasingly skeptical of the intent and the people overseeing the development and application of these things. There's incredible potential behind a lot of this stuff, the froggy xenobots included, but the potential for abuse and misuse is staggering.

[D. Adrien]

There was a reason in the past for controlled immigration that included screenings for communicable diseases.

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

There was a reason in the past for controlled immigration that included screenings for communicable diseases.

Hi, I think that may  be a yes but issue today.  For just plain travel by commercial airliners transports about every possible disease mechanism to almost every part of earth on a daily basis. Sick people having spent 500 to 1500 dollars for a flight  hide their own illness and just board a confining container with two hundred other potentially sick people for six to nineteen hours.

The supposed epidemic of COVID-19 was spread faster than could be recognized. Shutting down or locking down populations  became ineffective options though we know it was tried. Fear reigned over the world. The new type vaccine formulations were rushed  into approval and praised mightily. Now we evidently have populations with many sorts of chronic illness including and heart diseases that  co incidentally  have popped up in people that have received these wonderful vaccines for COVID-19. I happily received three such vaccines. This winter I was the sickest I have ever been in my life.

My doctor who has some 1500 patients and was a serious promoter of these vaccines, a man  I trust said , Yes what you had this winter is typical of my patients experience this winter, about two an da half months of being very sick with the same symptoms.   at this point i can only think "Hmmm". And now I read of the ability to make a vaccine effective for one race and ineffective or even harmful to others at the same time. Hmmm.

My comfort is in  my Lord and my personal savior Yeshua, but none the less God has me living in this flesh for the moment with instruction to share of the gospel of my Lord, and of his quick or soon return. So I plead for the Holy Spirit to  be loudly active in guiding me in; One, that I do no harm and two, that I do not wither away nor shy away from opportunity to  live out and  share of the gospel of Yeshua for all to hear or see. Plus that the Holy Spirit will turn about many  before the quick coming of our Lord for his own  those given him by His Father.

Seems a hang on, it's going to be a bumpy ride time. Guess it will also be "fun" - if I don't get vertigo, so to speak. And in the mix of things I think there is need ( For me) to become better educated about the medical field and so called big pharma, to use as a vehicle to be sharing of our Lord the real reconciler and "healer" for eternal life.

[D. Adrien]

23 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, I think that may  be a yes but issue today.  For just plain travel by commercial airliners transports about every possible disease mechanism to almost every part of earth on a daily basis. Sick people having spent 500 to 1500 dollars for a flight  hide their own illness and just board a confining container with two hundred other potentially sick people for six to nineteen hours.

The supposed epidemic of COVID-19 was spread faster than could be recognized. Shutting down or locking down populations  became ineffective options though we know it was tried. Fear reigned over the world. The new type vaccine formulations were rushed  into approval and praised mightily. Now we evidently have populations with many sorts of chronic illness including and heart diseases that  co incidentally  have popped up in people that have received these wonderful vaccines for COVID-19. I happily received three such vaccines. This winter I was the sickest I have ever been in my life.

My doctor who has some 1500 patients and was a serious promoter of these vaccines, a man  I trust said , Yes what you had this winter is typical of my patients experience this winter, about two an da half months of being very sick with the same symptoms.   at this point i can only think "Hmmm". And now I read of the ability to make a vaccine effective for one race and ineffective or even harmful to others at the same time. Hmmm.

My comfort is in  my Lord and my personal savior Yeshua, but none the less God has me living in this flesh for the moment with instruction to share of the gospel of my Lord, and of his quick or soon return. So I plead for the Holy Spirit to  be loudly active in guiding me in; One, that I do no harm and two, that I do not wither away nor shy away from opportunity to  live out and  share of the gospel of Yeshua for all to hear or see. Plus that the Holy Spirit will turn about many  before the quick coming of our Lord for his own  those given him by His Father.

Seems a hang on, it's going to be a bumpy ride time. Guess it will also be "fun" - if I don't get vertigo, so to speak. And in the mix of things I think there is need ( For me) to become better educated about the medical field and so called big pharma, to use as a vehicle to be sharing of our Lord the real reconciler and "healer" for eternal life.

Sickness can be very challenging concerning a spiritual life. Both my wife and I refused the vax and waited for Novavax brand which became available in late'22. I've never been one to trust government due the long history of using people as test subjects for various experiments. Vertigo is definitely not something I'd want anything to deal with. The one time I experienced it I thought I had suffered a stroke. Hope everything turns out to your liking Neighbor and I'll keep you in my prayers.

Edited March 15, 2024 by D. Adrien
too many commas.

[Neighbor]

BTW: Kinda funny my doctor of over thirty years, who has been a great quarterback  in terms of medical directives for family, when I told him  of my issues over the past three months  said "and you didn't think to come see me?"

I told him I was too sick to come in. He just looked at me. And then he asked any other things going on now. I told him just this vertigo. His response  "likely bad parts, the crystals in the inner ear failing"."Bad parts", a medical term I can understand.

Shoot, I am a bucketful of bad parts, loosely assembled at that. LOL. Let the band play on; as the old Peggy Lee song goes "If that is all there is let the band play on".

I am privileged  greatly privileged, and do hope to get to see my grandson get through to full adulthood  himself. That will be grand if I am granted that awesome privilege.

Anyway back to the books on vaccines-slow reading, with double vision, like watching a three D movie without the 3D glasses at times.

[Dennis1209]

I generally avoid giving an opinion on these vaccinations as I am no expert. From the start of this COVID fiasco to the present, there have been multiple red flags. It would be too long and boring to detail them all.

Does anyone believe what O’Biden, government alphabet agencies, and the World Health Organization tell us? Do they have the public's best interest or enormous pharmakeia contributions, lobbyists, money, and an agenda?  What they are doing, banning coal, banning fossil fuel independence, forcing electric cars that will not work in cold weather, opening borders, crashing our economy with trillions in debt, etc., makes no logical sense unless there is an agenda behind it. The frivolous and unconstitutional all-out political war and prosecutions against a rival political opponent are treasonous, and most know it.

It is not hard to identify our socialist global masters in government, religion, and the United Nations. I have harped on this before, it is written, planned, and initiated, just read U.N. Agenda 2030 that is openly published.

Their objective is to reduce the earth’s population to 500,000,000 people for sustainability. Can no one see how they are initiating this? Their latest initiative is outlawing private home gardens, as they significantly contribute CO² compared to commercial farming.  We all know where they stand on cows and their flatulence, destroying the world. They are trying to force bugs down our gullets.  

I see those in my community who have been vaccinated or fully vaccinated compared to those who declined the jab. I will only say I made a good choice not to receive it.

We are witnessing the reemergence of diseases we thought were eradicated. New strains of Avian and other diseases with rapid mutations are developing. I see this coming on like birth pains:

And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: (Revelation 9:20)

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