Church attendance in decline

[warrior12]

54 minutes ago, TheWorld4668 said:

Church Leaders are quiet about the devil creating hundreds of versions of the bible. Because why?

With today's technology, that should not be an issue, as any version of the mainstream bible can be brought up in an instant for comparison .

Why don't each person here then quote bible verse, quote the version too.  I use to do that, as I think it is important in the conversation to follow, as you are  right though, there can be quite different interpretation of the qutoed verse.   

Then the onus is on the beliver, when searching out for his answers , he will narrow down his translation to a few at most.  

Isn't this then a part of testing the spirits, it's your work to as a beliver to followup.

The devil will always be cunning and crafty, but you the believer has to stand up and expose darkness, even in your church done with respect. 

Church attendance is definitely in decline as science and the technology and ease of life became normative, I would say prior to covid.  Now, as the pressures are tightening for every consumer item and cost of living escalate, many would turn to the church , not sure for salvation, but to seek answers, and salvation can be found, by hearing the word and the spirit of truth penetrate the depths of the soul. 

[Marilyn C]

1 hour ago, TheWorld4668 said:

It seems the enemy is not just winning -but winning big! 

 

 

It seems your comment is giving the Lord a bad report card.

[Marilyn C]

21 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

It seems your comment is giving the Lord a bad report card.

It wasn`t meant to be funny, just a reality check.

[warrior12]

23 minutes ago, TheWorld4668 said:

Calling out evil is taboo in today's world. When you do (and I have!) you are deemed "mentally ill"; placed in the quiet room; forced-medicated for decades; laughed at by the devil (and even "Christians"!) because of the gynecomastia (breast tissue growth) caused by that "medicine".

Can't argue with that. It is true, with all the laws now in place to protect ----.

Soon, you will be forced to admit 2+2=5    as George wrote in his book 1984.

Oh well, the race is not for the swift, but those have endurance. Be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove he word declares. 

Edited June 24, 2024 by warrior12

[Marilyn C]

28 minutes ago, TheWorld4668 said:

The evil one controls the world which means He sets the definition of 'conspiracy'.

 

Actually, God owns and controls the world.

`The earth is the LORD`s, and all its fullness, the world and those who dwell therein.` (Ps. 24: 1)

Satan only has influence.

`We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.` (1 John 5: 19)

And the `world ` there is the world system which man has created - Politically, Economically and Religious.

[Michael37]

47 minutes ago, TheWorld4668 said:

Yes, I believe the devil added these miracles to make believers seem guilable gullible

Careful @TheWorld4668 You're on shaky ground here with that assertion, for reasons explained below:

Mat 12:22-32  Then one possessed by a demon, blind and mute, was brought to him and he healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw.  (23)  All the multitudes were amazed, and said, “Can this be the son of David?”  (24)  But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “This man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons.”  (25)  Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.  (26)  If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?  (27)  If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges.  (28)  But if I by the Spirit of God cast out demons, then God’s Kingdom has come upon you.  (29)  Or how can one enter into the house of the strong man, and plunder his goods, unless he first bind the strong man? Then he will plunder his house.  (30)  “He who is not with me is against me, and he who doesn’t gather with me, scatters.  (31)  Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.  (32)  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is to come.
 

[RV_Wizard]

2 hours ago, TheWorld4668 said:

For example, the ark (as it is planned in the bible) is nowhere near big enough to house every creature (birds, mammals, fish?, microorganisms, etc).

The ark had the space of 522 railroad stock cars-plenty of space to hold two of each known animal.  All that was needed was two of each kind, not two of every species.  Speciation happened after the flood, and likely before it as well.  The animal kingdom has all the information it needs to "go forth and multiply."

[Michael37]

5 hours ago, TheWorld4668 said:

Perhaps I am on shaky ground! My testimony in Christ is my only defense. 😇

The bottom line is that science (currently dominated by non-believers) has opened a floodgate of delusions over human history by what has been called 'Mandela Effects'.

For example, the ark (as it is planned in the bible) is nowhere near big enough to house every creature (birds, mammals, fish?, microorganisms, etc). The only way I can give an answer to why; is perhaps, the current story of Noah's Ark is a Mandela Effect (perhaps 1000 years ago, the bible said the Ark was 10 miles long 🤔?)...

Your beliefs are at variance with the Worthy Statement Of Faith, @TheWorld4668 which is why your Group Status has been changed to Non-Conformist.

Quote from Worthy Statement Of Faith:

We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God.

[Marilyn C]

12 hours ago, TheWorld4668 said:

Here is where we will disagree because I believe the strong delusion is at play here.

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Many folks say the strong delusion will not happen until the end.

To me the strong delusion is 'dinosaurs, egyptian pyramids, evolution (evidences proving it), Mandela Effects (in the bible even going back thousands of years), Law & Order (IMO, this is 'Peace! Peace! When there is no peace.'), the word 'Pray'? (sounds like 'Prey'), the father is greater (Jesus 'admits' there are things only his father can do /walk on water, ascend into heaven/ Yes, I believe the devil added these miracles to make believers seem guilable) and many more.

Believing this current world is controlled by God is something I can not accept for my daily experience tells the opposite. I have been persecuted for Christ since birth (doesn't mean I am perfect). 

🙏 I agree to disagree with you 🙏

I agree THAT we disagree but not to agree to it, otherwise we wouldn`t discuss.

Yes, the strong delusion is in play, in man`s world system, however, when did God give away His world or was overpowered and someone took it away?

 

[farouk]

On 5/29/2024 at 5:09 PM, Anne2 said:

Maybe it is an issue of differing gifts for a calling.

 

However they did leave Egypt to worship God

Ex 5:1 And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.
2  And Pharaoh said, Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go.
3  And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days’ journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the LORD our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.

I think sometimes we do not recognize/appreciate the various operations of the body of christ.

1 Cor 12:14  For the body is not one member, but many.
15  If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
16  And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
17  If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
18  But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
19  And if they were all one member, where were the body?

David a man of war, blessed and chosen King...was not to build God's house..

1Chr 28:3  But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood. {blood: Heb. bloods }
4  Howbeit the LORD God of Israel chose me before all the house of my father to be king over Israel for ever: for he hath chosen Judah to be the ruler; and of the house of Judah, the house of my father; and among the sons of my father he liked me to make me king over all Israel:

 

Hi @Anne2 Hebrews 10.25 does contain a very important principle: "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."