Far out/random thoughts on unholy trinity

[Vine Abider]

I have a few minutes to kill and had been thinking about this a little lately (as I think the time of this age is short), so I thought to "bless" all y'alls with my crazy thoughts . . .  

In Revelation we have the beast, the false prophet and the dragon - an unholy trinity.  The dragon is assuredly the devil.  He is unseen and behind the scenes, much like God the Father is in the holy trinity.  The false prophet would then seem to be akin to Christ, and then the beast would be the unholy version of the Spirit perhaps?  (I dunno - maybe that doesn't line up so well . . .)  In any case, I would think the false prophet must be able to do various miracles (like Jesus) to reinforce his speaking.  

With all the talk of AI these days, and also of cyber implants, I wonder if a person (the beast) of this unholy trinity might become a walking AI/internet connected cyborg/human being, who could know and deduce an amazing amount of information in an instant. 

And, from my understanding, when the antichrist receives a death blow, they come back to life in 3 days.  I wonder if, at that time, they convey themselves to be a superior being/God or a god-like eternal being, who either created life on this planet or seeded humans here.  Maybe then they would reveal that all the UFOs were under their control.  (I've long thought that this one might reveal the supposedly "true" nature behind UFOs, etc.)

And this one, when he comes back to life, will then break the 7 year covenant, which he had quite amazingly orchestrated 3.5 years earlier, and sets himself up as God in the Hebrew temple (which must have been rebuilt).  I always thought that the Jews would oppose this one, but I think the devil wants the worship of the Jews as a final insult to God, so perhaps he causes them to believe he actually is God, and they cease their temple sacrifices voluntarily.  

Well my free time of ruminating is gone and I must get on with the work of tilling my piece of ground . . .  

[NConly]

32 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

With all the talk of AI these days, and also of cyber implants, I wonder if a person (the beast) of this unholy trinity might become a walking AI/internet connected cyborg/human being, who could know and deduce an amazing amount of information in an instant.

You probably already know this; what they show the public is old news. They are most likely 10 or more years more advanced than what they are reporting to the public as current break through's with AI and cyborg types.

[Vine Abider]

19 minutes ago, NConly said:

You probably already know this; what they show the public is old news. They are most likely 10 or more years more advanced than what they are reporting to the public as current break through's with AI and cyborg types.

Yeah, pretty likely.  Full-blown AI and human in one flesh will be a wonder . . .

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I have a few minutes to kill and had been thinking about this a little lately (as I think the time of this age is short), so I thought to "bless" all y'alls with my crazy thoughts . . .  

In Revelation we have the beast, the false prophet and the dragon - an unholy trinity.  The dragon is assuredly the devil.  He is unseen and behind the scenes, much like God the Father is in the holy trinity.  The false prophet would then seem to be akin to Christ, and then the beast would be the unholy version of the Spirit perhaps?  (I dunno - maybe that doesn't line up so well . . .)  In any case, I would think the false prophet must be able to do various miracles (like Jesus) to reinforce his speaking.  

With all the talk of AI these days, and also of cyber implants, I wonder if a person (the beast) of this unholy trinity might become a walking AI/internet connected cyborg/human being, who could know and deduce an amazing amount of information in an instant. 

And, from my understanding, when the antichrist receives a death blow, they come back to life in 3 days.  I wonder if, at that time, they convey themselves to be a superior being/God or a god-like eternal being, who either created life on this planet or seeded humans here.  Maybe then they would reveal that all the UFOs were under their control.  (I've long thought that this one might reveal the supposedly "true" nature behind UFOs, etc.)

And this one, when he comes back to life, will then break the 7 year covenant, which he had quite amazingly orchestrated 3.5 years earlier, and sets himself up as God in the Hebrew temple (which must have been rebuilt).  I always thought that the Jews would oppose this one, but I think the devil wants the worship of the Jews as a final insult to God, so perhaps he causes them to believe he actually is God, and they cease their temple sacrifices voluntarily.  

Well my free time of ruminating is gone and I must get on with the work of tilling my piece of ground . . .  

I have found alignment with the imagery used in the Bible and shown John in Revelation very illuminating and edifying.

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# I believe when the beast from the sea is referred to with "his" & "him", this is a personification.

Rev 13:1-2  Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. (2)  Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.

# I believe metaphorically human wickedness down the ages is a seething sea.

Isa 57:20  But the wicked are like the troubled sea, When it cannot rest, Whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

# I believe the imagery that describes the beast from the sea characterises the empires of the world.

Babylon is carried on the beast who is like a leopard = swift, predatory political agility.

Babylon is carried on the beast who has feet like a bear = sharp, aggressive military might.

Babylon is carried on the beast who has a mouth like a lion = loud, dominating media mastery.

# I believe symbolically Heads speak of CONTROL, Horns speak of ENFORCEMENT, Crowns speak of SOVEREIGNTY and the Beast from the Sea represents Blasphemous Empires Actualising Satanic Tyranny using humankind and its godless organisational infrastructure.

Rev 17:9-13  This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated;  (10)  they are also seven kings (and by implication seven kingdoms), five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while.  (11)  As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction.  (12)  And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast.  (13)  These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast.

# I believe the rising of Satanic Control, Satanic Enforcement, & Satanic Sovereignty to reach a destructive climax is intended to be understood in the beast metaphor and personification. Obviously there is hierarchy involved, and great moral and spiritual darkness.

Rev 16:10-11  

The fifth angel poured out his bowl on

the throne of the beast,

and

its kingdom was plunged into darkness.

People gnawed their tongues in anguish  (11)  

and

cursed the God of heaven for their pain and sores.

They did not repent of their deeds.

 

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Michael37 said:

# I believe the rising of Satanic Control, Satanic Enforcement, & Satanic Sovereignty to reach a destructive climax is intended to be understood in the beast metaphor and personification. Obviously there is hierarchy involved, and great moral and spiritual darkness.

# The Dragon is Wrathful, for a short time.

# The Beast is Rising, to global dominance through ideology, technology, and mediology.

# The Anomos is Restrained, by opposing government officials until eventually they or their opposition are eliminated.

[Marilyn C]

8 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I have a few minutes to kill and had been thinking about this a little lately (as I think the time of this age is short), so I thought to "bless" all y'alls with my crazy thoughts . . .  

In Revelation we have the beast, the false prophet and the dragon - an unholy trinity.  The dragon is assuredly the devil.  He is unseen and behind the scenes, much like God the Father is in the holy trinity.  The false prophet would then seem to be akin to Christ, and then the beast would be the unholy version of the Spirit perhaps?  (I dunno - maybe that doesn't line up so well . . .)  In any case, I would think the false prophet must be able to do various miracles (like Jesus) to reinforce his speaking.  

With all the talk of AI these days, and also of cyber implants, I wonder if a person (the beast) of this unholy trinity might become a walking AI/internet connected cyborg/human being, who could know and deduce an amazing amount of information in an instant. 

And, from my understanding, when the antichrist receives a death blow, they come back to life in 3 days.  I wonder if, at that time, they convey themselves to be a superior being/God or a god-like eternal being, who either created life on this planet or seeded humans here.  Maybe then they would reveal that all the UFOs were under their control.  (I've long thought that this one might reveal the supposedly "true" nature behind UFOs, etc.)

And this one, when he comes back to life, will then break the 7 year covenant, which he had quite amazingly orchestrated 3.5 years earlier, and sets himself up as God in the Hebrew temple (which must have been rebuilt).  I always thought that the Jews would oppose this one, but I think the devil wants the worship of the Jews as a final insult to God, so perhaps he causes them to believe he actually is God, and they cease their temple sacrifices voluntarily.  

Well my free time of ruminating is gone and I must get on with the work of tilling my piece of ground . . .  

I agree, VA, that there will be an unholy Trinity. However, the anti-Christ is only `as if mortally wounded.` It is deception. Satan cannot create and neither can the fallen angels (or any angels). 

And Satan always wants to get rid of the Jews. 

The Jews have a temple already in Jerusalem which will be desecrated. The third temple on the sacred site will be in the millennium. (Ez. 40 - 48)

[luigi]

The false prophet is the beasts mouth who speaks of how great things are going to be under his rule. And according to Daniel 7:25  and 8:25, he will have 3.5 times in which he does cause craft/business to prosper, and so will be adored along with the beast and Satan, and all whose names are not written in the lambs book of life (Revelation 13:4 & 8).

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

[AnOrangeCat]

11 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I have a few minutes to kill and had been thinking about this a little lately (as I think the time of this age is short), so I thought to "bless" all y'alls with my crazy thoughts . . .  

Bring on the crazy I say. I tend to find this kind of speculation interesting as long as everyone treats it as such.

11 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

With all the talk of AI these days, and also of cyber implants, I wonder if a person (the beast) of this unholy trinity might become a walking AI/internet connected cyborg/human being, who could know and deduce an amazing amount of information in an instant. 

This is an idea I've heard about before. Something pointed out in relation to this is that the false prophet causes people to worship "the image of the beast". I've seen people's takes on that change as we've teched up. Fiber optic equipped televisions that go two ways, the internet, holograms, and now AI. I don't have any particular leanings as I think the particulars of this and a lot of other Bible prophecy are going to be mysteries, but again, interesting stuff to talk about.

11 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

And, from my understanding, when the antichrist receives a death blow, they come back to life in 3 days.  I wonder if, at that time, they convey themselves to be a superior being/God or a god-like eternal being, who either created life on this planet or seeded humans here. 

Revelation 9:6 has a passage that I've often found really curious. "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them." Can you imagine that? If someone is really seeking death there are plenty of options. How does death flee from someone? I've come to suspect that at that time people may well be significantly altered by way of genetic manipulation and implants.

A think I've not seen advertised much are xenobots. These are self replicating tiny little things based on frog cells. They can swim around in a person's blood and do things, and scientists aren't entirely sure what to classify them as since they possess characteristics of both normal life and robots. My blood ran cold when I first heard about it because it seems so out there and sci fi, but there it is right in front of us. It also made me think of the unclean spirits that came out of the mouths of the beast, dragon, and false prophet that were like frogs. Is there a connection? Who knows, but I really don't like the potential for abuse on this one.

One last thing to share is that we had a guy named Zoltan Istvan make a bid for presidency in the US  back in 2020. It was barely a blip on the radar. He's an interesting guy but pretty unsettling. He's pretty deep into atheist territory and believes we'll be able to alter ourselves to become "omnipotent" somewhere down the line. It's easy to just dismiss him as a loony but other than the omnipotence thing a lot of his ideas for humanity are notions that look increasingly possible.

Edited May 15, 2024 by AnOrangeCat

[RdJ]

The AI robot is the image of the first beast.

And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
Revelation 13:11‭-‬16 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.13.11-16.NKJV

 

I always thought that when he stops the offering and sits in the temple the non christian Jews see they were mislead and that he can't be the messiah, so then they accept Jesus and he wants to kill them, but they get a safe place in the desert and al Israel gets saved.

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by RdJ

[Desopixi Seilynam]

I think that a.i. will ultimately be used for the image of the beast, such that it could know who watches and who does not.

The image itself will both speak and kill those who don't worship it.   [ Rev 13:15 ]

Most people today carry around with them and live their lives around the platform from which the image will rise.