Baptism but not all the way...

[Gracejj]

My 7yr old decided that he would like to be baptized but he kind of fears putting his eyes ears and head under water,  he just have a hard time with it, even in shower he would just do it so quickly as if its not water falling on his head but a lava :D. So during baptism at the time of submersion he panicked and made his body stiff and the guy who was baptising wasn't able to bring him all the way submerged in the water quickly,  he went upto  his face area staying outside the water keeping mouth and nose outside the water. 😆 So i am wondering is he actually baptized? Even though his eyes and nose didn't submerge?

[Neighbor]

27 minutes ago, Grace j said:

is he actually baptized?

Seems more a heart issue than  an eyes and nose one.  Evidently  even at seven his heart is all in for our Lord and Savior Yeshua.  Enjoy the moment  thanking God for the testimony of  a 7 year old, your son.

[RdJ]

Even Torben Söndergaard who told people to get baptized again, when he was in prison there was no choice. When these guys got saved he used a cup of water to baptize them.

Edited June 13, 2024 by RdJ

[Ray12614]

There is a lot more to baptism than just a 'formula' of what a baptism is. It should be a public profession of our faith in Jesus. Simple 'dunking' without the persons  profession of Jesus is rather useless in my opinion.

So . . . was that profession of believing in Jesus by him a part of his baptism? If so, then he has been baptized.

I think it is admirable that even with his phobia of water he still wanted to be baptized, and got into the water to be baptized.

Ray . . . 

[Marathoner]

9 hours ago, Grace j said:

My 7yr old decided that he would like to be baptized but he kind of fears putting his eyes ears and head under water,  he just have a hard time with it, even in shower he would just do it so quickly as if its not water falling on his head but a lava :D. So during baptism at the time of submersion he panicked and made his body stiff and the guy who was baptising wasn't able to bring him all the way submerged in the water quickly,  he went upto  his face area staying outside the water keeping mouth and nose outside the water. 😆 So i am wondering is he actually baptized? Even though his eyes and nose didn't submerge?

Certainly. Hydrophobia is normal among young children, particularly the 5-11 year old range. I remember hating the shower when I was a lad. 

[NConly]

6 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

There is a lot more to baptism than just a 'formula' of what a baptism is. It should be a public profession of our faith in Jesus. Simple 'dunking' without the persons  profession of Jesus is rather useless in my opinion.

So . . . was that profession of believing in Jesus by him a part of his baptism? If so, then he has been baptized.

I think it is admirable that even with his phobia of water he still wanted to be baptized, and got into the water to be baptized.

Ray . . . 

I have a question for you @Ray12614 about this post. I do not want to  derail the thread though. Thanks.

I thought when A person goes to the alter after being called at end of a sermon is the public profession am I wrong?

I agree That Grace J's son professed to follow the Son of God Jesus our Savior and was saved and baptized properly.

 

Edited June 13, 2024 by NConly
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[TheBlade]

10 hours ago, Grace j said:

My 7yr old decided that he would like to be baptized but he kind of fears putting his eyes ears and head under water,  he just have a hard time with it, even in shower he would just do it so quickly as if its not water falling on his head but a lava :D. So during baptism at the time of submersion he panicked and made his body stiff and the guy who was baptising wasn't able to bring him all the way submerged in the water quickly,  he went upto  his face area staying outside the water keeping mouth and nose outside the water. 😆 So i am wondering is he actually baptized? Even though his eyes and nose didn't submerge?

:) yes.. but if one keeps searching oh I am sure you will hear all kind of answers. Its do we know Yeshua/Jesus Christ as lord.

[AdHoc]

11 hours ago, Grace j said:

My 7yr old decided that he would like to be baptized but he kind of fears putting his eyes ears and head under water,  he just have a hard time with it, even in shower he would just do it so quickly as if its not water falling on his head but a lava :D. So during baptism at the time of submersion he panicked and made his body stiff and the guy who was baptising wasn't able to bring him all the way submerged in the water quickly,  he went upto  his face area staying outside the water keeping mouth and nose outside the water. 😆 So i am wondering is he actually baptized? Even though his eyes and nose didn't submerge?

The word Baptism is an Anglicization of the Greek "Baptizo". The Greek word means "to submerge as you would when dyeing a robe". Every effort should be made to submerge the believer. But, as one above has said, should we forgo Baptism because things are not perfect? No! I have baptized many a big man in a standard bathtub. At the time of "dunking" his knees would protrude from the water. Does God disregard this act of obedience because of circumstance where 5% of the body is not simultaneously dunked?  I think not. His intention and actions proved his obedience. In Colossians 2 we read; 

10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

There are about six things involved in Baptism. Here in Colossians 2 we see that Baptism is the replacement for circumcision. But Romans 4:11 tells us that circumcision is a "sign". The reality is Christ's work - according to verse 10 above. We are complete, NOT because of the sign, but because we are regarded as IN HIM. Shall the Jewish lad of eight days old be counted as not circumcised because the Rabbi's knife left a 1 mm (1/25 inch) square patch of foreskin? It is the "sign" that counts and not the depths he was dunked to. I propose that we should be completely buried in water in Jesus' name. And if some knee-jerk reaction leaves the nose uncovered, let us trust God that he is satisfied with the sign and the obedience. When a Jew tithed his mustard seed harvest, shall he count every one?

 

[Gracejj]

12 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Seems more a heart issue than  an eyes and nose one.  Evidently  even at seven his heart is all in for our Lord and Savior Yeshua.  Enjoy the moment  thanking God for the testimony of  a 7 year old, your son.

Hallelujah! Thank you I just needed to hear this. :)

[Gracejj]

8 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

There is a lot more to baptism than just a 'formula' of what a baptism is. It should be a public profession of our faith in Jesus. Simple 'dunking' without the persons  profession of Jesus is rather useless in my opinion.

So . . . was that profession of believing in Jesus by him a part of his baptism? If so, then he has been baptized.

I think it is admirable that even with his phobia of water he still wanted to be baptized, and got into the water to be baptized.

Ray . . . 

Well said. Yes he actually accepted Jesus as his savior when he was around 6 yrs old, so yes he surely professed faith in Him i can say that.

Thank you