Happy Sabbath

[other one]

2 hours ago, webling said:

Another word for it is fellowship. Elohim wants relationship with us. To spend time with us.

24 hours a day 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for all of our lives.

[Guest webling]

14 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

I find agreement for sure in your presentation  on the whole. I find I may have a take on the commandments,- that being Jesus stepped them all up, put them on steroids so to speak ,when he declared again and again  within his sermon on the mount that the thought  of doing a sin  was as much a sin as the doing of one.

 I will leave the subject of whose finger scratched rock alone, for I think that should make  for a most interesting thread of it's own if and when you wish to create one.

I will only create new posts on my own site after this. It appears to me that several people here only want to argue against the truth.

[Guest webling]

16 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

I find agreement for sure in your presentation  on the whole. I find I may have a take on the commandments,- that being Jesus stepped them all up, put them on steroids so to speak ,when he declared again and again  within his sermon on the mount that the thought  of doing a sin  was as much a sin as the doing of one.

 I will leave the subject of whose finger scratched rock alone, for I think that should make  for a most interesting thread of it's own if and when you wish to create one.

It doesn't abolish the commandments, it supports them.

[Mr. M]

54 minutes ago, webling said:

It doesn't abolish the commandments, it supports them.

How and why do the commandments need support?

Psalm 19:

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes;
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them Your servant is warned,
And in keeping them there is great reward.

Edited July 20, 2024 by Mr. M

[Mr. M]

Just now, Mr. M said:

How and why de the commandments need support?

Psalm 19:

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes;
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them Your servant is warned,
And in keeping them there is great reward.

12 Who can understand his errors?
Cleanse me from secret faults.
13 Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins;
Let them not have dominion over me.
Then I shall be blameless,
And I shall be innocent of great transgression.

14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
Be acceptable in Your sight,
O Lord, my strength and my Redeemer.

How does presumptuousness lead to "great transgression"?

[Vine Abider]

3 hours ago, webling said:

Another word for it is fellowship. Elohim wants relationship with us. To spend time with us.

 

46 minutes ago, other one said:

24 hours a day 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for all of our lives.

Amen!  And since He lives in us, He's never far!  

[Mr. M]

6 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

 

Amen!  And since He lives in us, He's never far!  

Fellowship is the perfecting of the saints

in their relationship as beloved brethren.

Ephesians 4:

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man,

unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,

by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplies,

according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, making increase of the body unto

the edifying of itself in love.

[D. Adrien]

24 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

How does presumptuousness lead to "great transgression"?

1Sam. 15:23 (ESV)

For rebellion is as the sin of divination,
and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry.

[Mr. M]

1 hour ago, D. Adrien said:

1Sam. 15:23 (ESV)

For rebellion is as the sin of divination,
and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry.

James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word,

the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

Hebrews 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; 

lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you,

and thereby many be defiled.

[D. Adrien]

2 hours ago, webling said:

I will only create new posts on my own site after this. It appears to me that several people here only want to argue against the truth.

Don't despair webling.

If the Law was done away with, it would have been much easier to do away with it prior to being scourged and crucified. I agree with you that the Law was fulfilled by Jesus shedding His blood on the cross as the Law does require bloodshed.

Lev.17:11

For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

Rom.10:4 is what has been produced:

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

People will believe what they choose to believe and nothing but divine intervention will alter that.