Neither Harris nor Vance attended the Congressional meeting today with Benjamin Netanyahu.

[Dennis1209]

2 hours ago, Neighbor said:

She is going to just overwhelm Trump at most every turn  over these next few weeks and months. I'm still all in For RFK Jr. myself, but I realize that now the energy in the Democrat party will just swamp the Republicans.

I can only hope that the serious support for RFK Jr. will not fad as the onslaught by Harris over Trump becomes  very apparent. And that many non Trumper Republicans will support RFK Jr. at the ballot box.

While one may  find Harris  to be objectionable politically and even personally, as I do,  it is a serious mistake to underestimate her.

At any rate, God is sovereign and my hope is certain for it is placed in Jesus alone.

We agree on this point: God is sovereign, still on the throne, and He is working out His will, plan, and purposes. I also put my faith, trust, and hope in Jesus Christ alone. The Lord is sovereign in His will:

Daniel 2:21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: [This includes presidents and leaders].

It is also true that God will turn a nation over to the lusts of their flesh and a debased mind, give them what they want, and see how they like it [a biblical pattern]. History is always cyclic in many ways, from sin and idolatry to cycles of empires and everything in between.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

I see another potential historic repeat if JFK Jr. runs as an independent candidate on the ballot:

If you recall 1992, Ross Perot (I) ran against George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton, receiving about 18.97% of the popular vote. Not that I thought the “read my lips, no new taxes” man was a good president (he, too, was a globalist). Most agree if Perot had not run, most of those votes would have been cast for Bush and an easy reelection.

That is how cigar man, it depends on what your definitions of is, is, and his sidekick Hillary came into power. Perot diverted Republican votes to the Democrats in effect. I agree JFK Jr. would probably be a decent president, but with all the Trump support and money by conservatives, JFK Jr. has no chance of coming even close to a win.

Jesus was not talking about America’s 2024 presidential election, but I think it is appliable:

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Where is the wisdom of wasting a vote if we perceive it as voting between lesser evils? Do we not want to restrain and slow down evil until the Lord’s return? It takes tens of millions of dollars to run for high office. We will never get a Billy Graham-type politician to run the country. As I mentioned, we need to vote for the BEST candidate who most CLOSELY mirrors our Christian convictions.

The choice between one who can win, Trump, or a socialist left wing like Biden or Harris, is a common-sense no-brainer on my part, with no critical thinking needed. I hate to say this, but one way or another, I anticipate Harris to be the next president.

[Ray12614]

7 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

We agree on this point: God is sovereign, still on the throne, and He is working out His will, plan, and purposes. I also put my faith, trust, and hope in Jesus Christ alone. The Lord is sovereign in His will:

Daniel 2:21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: [This includes presidents and leaders].

It is also true that God will turn a nation over to the lusts of their flesh and a debased mind, give them what they want, and see how they like it [a biblical pattern]. History is always cyclic in many ways, from sin and idolatry to cycles of empires and everything in between.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

I see another potential historic repeat if JFK Jr. runs as an independent candidate on the ballot:

If you recall 1992, Ross Perot (I) ran against George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton, receiving about 18.97% of the popular vote. Not that I thought the “read my lips, no new taxes” man was a good president (he, too, was a globalist). Most agree if Perot had not run, most of those votes would have been cast for Bush and an easy reelection.

That is how cigar man, it depends on what your definitions of is, is, and his sidekick Hillary came into power. Perot diverted Republican votes to the Democrats in effect. I agree JFK Jr. would probably be a decent president, but with all the Trump support and money by conservatives, JFK Jr. has no chance of coming even close to a win.

Jesus was not talking about America’s 2024 presidential election, but I think it is appliable:

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Where is the wisdom of wasting a vote if we perceive it as voting between lesser evils? Do we not want to restrain and slow down evil until the Lord’s return? It takes tens of millions of dollars to run for high office. We will never get a Billy Graham-type politician to run the country. As I mentioned, we need to vote for the BEST candidate who most CLOSELY mirrors our Christian convictions.

The choice between one who can win, Trump, or a socialist left wing like Biden or Harris, is a common-sense no-brainer on my part, with no critical thinking needed. I hate to say this, but one way or another, I anticipate Harris to be the next president.

Agreed concerning RFK diverting votes away from republicans.

So . . . then the democratic administration remains (you know . . . the ones running the show now?).

Listen, this is not rocket science . . . an vote for RFK is an vote for the Democratic party  and all its platform and policies.

I honestly don't know why this is so hard for Christians to understand. What am I missing ? ? ? Somebody please explain for me in an simple manner that even Ray can understand.

[Sparks]

Right now, election betting odds puts Trump at a 58.5% chance of winning the election, and Harris at 38.9%, but there are months to go before the true election.  The odds are probably true if the election happened today.  No one did anything about the cheating last time, so it could happen again, just in a different way. 

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Remember, Christians have no business voting democrat. 

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, Ray12614 said:

I honestly don't know why this is so hard for Christians to understand. What am I missing ? ? ? Somebody please explain for me in an simple manner that even Ray can understand.

Hi, Well it is perhaps much like prayer itself. Do I pray to God please send me the lesser of two evils for me to endorse? Or do I pray for God to do mighty things in spite of the conditions I find myself in at any moment?

 Voting for Trump in California is a wasted vote is it not? Voting for Harris in Florida is a wasted vote too.  Yet individuals express their  desire for leadership at both States regardless. Mine is for RFK Jr. who will be on every ballot in  the USA  because individuals have stepped up in every State to sign petitions to get him on the Ballot in their State.

Plus, every challenge posted so far by the Democrat Party to keep him off their own State's ballot has been defeated by State voter commissions and by court rulings. It is the Democrat party  that fears RFK Jr. the most. They are not encouraging him  thinking he will take away Trumper voters.

BTW the majority of active  voters are for neither Trump nor Harris. They are independent of party affiliation. RFK Jr. could WIN with 34% of the popular vote.   It is early yet, but pollsters are finding  serious support in a three way race. But even that doesn't matter if I believe the other two are evil or simply bad for the country I will not be forced into choosing from either one of them.

To me it makes no sense to choose between which of two bad, if not evil, individuals to put into leadership of a country. And so I have dome my own research, and have decided on RFK Jr., not as the lesser of three evils, but as a man that has compassion for justice for all peoples, has a track record of taking on  the powerful  when there is reason to do so, and winning against powers that do cause all of us harm.

RFK Jr. has filed  some 500 lawsuits against agencies of government and corporations that ignore the well being of individuals in the USA. And for that reason I support RFK Jr. with time, money, and  also my vote come November. I also pray that God will  sustain us and ask  of Him will he find RFK Jr. to be suitable in leading a turning about of the USA today. 

[Sparks]

8 hours ago, Neighbor said:

RFK Jr. has filed  some 500 lawsuits against agencies of government and corporations that ignore the well being of individuals in the USA. And for that reason I support RFK Jr. with time, money, and  also my vote come November. I also pray that God will  sustain us and ask  of Him will he find RFK Jr. to be suitable in leading a turning about of the USA today. 

I have learned a lot from Kennedy, especially about the problems with the vaccines and a book about Fauci, but under the independent candidate's exterior, he is still a democrat which is the biggest issue of all to a Christian voter.   He reminds me of a Blue Dog democrat, who is hated by the Yellow Dog democrats, but who will vote correctly on a handful of issues as a type of moderate.

Kennedy works on 'The Defender' which is a part of the Children's Health Defense.  I like these publications, but his democrat issues shine through, so I could never vote for him as president.  If I were president, I might assign him as a vaccine czar, however.

The Defender

[Jayne]

7 hours ago, Debp said:

They said she had a meeting so couldn't preside over it.

So I looked up the meeting....it was at some sorority!!!   Refusing to attend when Netanyahu comes to speak....our closest ally in the Middle East!!!   Going to a sorority meeting instead!!!   Another dumb move on Kamala Harris' part

Yes, it was her old sorority.  It was a 5-day fundraiser.  The TV showed her at it.  I feel that if it were 5 days, she could have told them, "I'll be there, but on such-and-such day, I'll have to be in Congress for a couple of hours."

[Neighbor]

18 minutes ago, Jayne said:

Yes, it was her old sorority.  It was a 5-day fundraiser.  The TV showed her at it.  I feel that if it were 5 days, she could have told them, "I'll be there, but on such-and-such day, I'll have to be in Congress for a couple of hours."

About 128 Democrats and a few Republicans did not attend. The visuals were pretty much that of a rally for Netanyahu who does not have especially strong support at this time in his own country.

Urban warfare is especially brutal. The concept of "surgical strikes" goes out the window and civilians  do get wiped out by  the many thousands. what is happening to  the occupants at Gaza right now is a hard to justify visually.

I guess a question is; does Netanyahu's presentation about Israel's mercy under Netanyahu line up with the reality that the world sees, or not? Evidently it is a tough sell.  Seeing what some Israeli troops have been doing to civilians doesn't help the cause . War isn't pretty, not at all.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Psalm 122

"I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord.

 Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.

 Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:

 Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord.

 For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.

 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.

 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

 Because of the house of the Lord our God I will seek thy good."

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p.s.- What country's leadership would endorse a two State solution upon it's own geography? 

 

[TheBlade]

3 hours ago, Sparks said:

I have learned a lot from Kennedy, especially about the problems with the vaccines and a book about Fauci, but under the independent candidate's exterior, he is still a democrat which is the biggest issue of all to a Christian voter.   He reminds me of a Blue Dog democrat, who is hated by the Yellow Dog democrats, but who will vote correctly on a handful of issues as a type of moderate.

Kennedy works on 'The Defender' which is a part of the Children's Defense Fund.  I like these publications, but the democrat issues shine through, so I could never vote for him as president.  If I were president, I might assign him as a vaccine czar, however.

The Defender

I like Kennedy I really do but man in some respects hes like Trump. Well once you get him talking about vaccines.. its all over he will go on and on lol.  What's happening here happens all the time. The person you like you tend to ignore the lies the misleading stuff they say. 

As for polls all you have to do is go back look at Hillary and Trump when they ran against each other. Those "polls" were so wrong. Some news sites said Trump has no hope of winning yet look what happen. I like actions.. I don't care how you talk. People running have a record of what they can do yet seems one of them has really no record at all other then the past 4 years. 

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, TheBlade said:

I like Kennedy I really do but man in some respects hes like Trump. Well once you get him talking about vaccines.. its all over he will go on and on lol.  What's happening here happens all the time. The person you like you tend to ignore the lies the misleading stuff they say. 

As for polls all you have to do is go back look at Hillary and Trump when they ran against each other. Those "polls" were so wrong. Some news sites said Trump has no hope of winning yet look what happen. I like actions.. I don't care how you talk. People running have a record of what they can do yet seems one of them has really no record at all other then the past 4 years. 

Actually Kennedy wants Big Pharma to be responsible with it's vaccines. He states he is fully vaccinated and so are his now adult children, with the exception of the COVID  vaccines. He states he simply wants the exemption from liability for  bad vaccines to be removed so that companies will be more responsible in what they put forth for people to take. Right now  no matter what they may do they cannot be held liable for it's consequences. 

[Sparks]

2 hours ago, TheBlade said:

I like Kennedy I really do but man in some respects hes like Trump. Well once you get him talking about vaccines.. its all over he will go on and on lol.  What's happening here happens all the time. The person you like you tend to ignore the lies the misleading stuff they say. 

As for polls all you have to do is go back look at Hillary and Trump when they ran against each other. Those "polls" were so wrong. Some news sites said Trump has no hope of winning yet look what happen. I like actions.. I don't care how you talk. People running have a record of what they can do yet seems one of them has really no record at all other then the past 4 years. 

Polls, especially push polls, are pretty one-sided and the latter is manipulative.  That is why I prefer the betting sites to see opinions that are closer to reality because a person might root for their candidate all day long, but bet their own hard earned money against them because they know who will really win.  People betting is not always the best indicator, but I trust it over polls.

They might as well say "Democrat polls indicate ..." when they start quoting polls because they are from liberal sites with liberal viewers.  Biden's popularity polls might look quite different on a site like OAN.  Besides, they can really lie using statistics.  There is a book by that name (How to lie using statistics), written in 1954 by Darrell Huff.  After reading that book, I will never trust anything an advertiser says, again.