Why are they lying about North Carolina and the region?

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, nebula said:

No one here seems to care about these people anyway.

 

Oh not so! Under lead of Governor DeSantis many Floridians immediately took off for North Carolina to help. Going by private plane going by private helicopters and Florida State  helicopters and rescue vehicles, even while we were reeling ourselves.

This is going to be a long long haul for all of us. Throughout much of the South East and to some degree beyond. It will take perhaps a decade or more to get through all the changes.

We got hit at the no name storm, wiped out family members houses and later us financially back at Hurricane Andrew when all building codes were made invalid and new codes took years to get established.

We had a five month build that got  literally shut down, building departments closed for over a year after Andrew.. It took four years to bring it in to completion- in the meantime  our construction loan balance was called in to boot.

Have one family member who got his home flooded back to back  with these latest hurricanes. We have literally miles of peoples belongings still being picked up. 

This time we just lost fences, lots of trees, and a few roofs in our own immediate  neighborhood. There are millions of us directly affected.

This all is going to get even harder than it is now. It is going to be way more than just this winter, and what to do.

Georgia has been hurt and Florida is devastated too. But we have a you aren't going to get us down for long attitude. We are doing for each other not waiting on Government, especially not FEMA.

[nebula]

3 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

No because here's the thing, I could make a video right now, and lie through my teeth about everything, maybe even add in some half baked images of a army camp somewhere and claim it's a fema camp holding trump supporters hostage, and someone would believe it, even though I made the entire thing up.

It's not that I don't care, that's a blatantly false accusation and a weak attempt to win an argument. Being passive aggressive does not make you right.

I just care about facts and truth. Some verifiable facts are right now is that FEMA is under investigation for refusing to give aid to known trump supporters. That's verifiable. 

But, someone on tik tok screaming conspiracy isn't. Even if their intention isn't lying, people in those situations are often stressed out, emotional, and only seeing part of the story.

For example I met someone a few years ago, was a victim of a large vehicle crash. Apparently according to her first responders ignored her at first and refused to treat her because they were racist.

Come to find out they didn't actually ignore her, she was barely injured and initially they didn't have enough people to handle all the victims So when they triaged they saw she wasnt in any immediate peril, have her a bandaid and water and moved on to more serious victims, at least until more EMTs showed up to treat everyone. 

She was basically mad because they loaded up a guy with a broken leg and other serious injuries into the ambulance before her. But the way she made it sound, she was in dire need of help and the racist EMTs didn't help her.

That's the problem with only looking at one side of the story.

I apologize for my autism-spectrum-brain hiccups when my emotions get flared. I do not know how to properly address challenges like this when to provide evidence for my claims, I have to re-find videos and post them, hoping they will get approved, just to show you that I am reporting on genuine problems and concerns.

I admit I was wrong in trying to describe the FEMA camps as "concentration camps;" I forgot this was a trigger word. My point was that they are heavily guarded, and from the looks of them, they aren't building shelter for hurricane victims. The videos that I did see came from people who video'd themselves approaching the camps, either from ground-level or from above on a mountainside. The one up the mountainside was able to catch a glimpse of the camp from above. It was definitely hurricane-devastated Western NC. You can see a photo of that (or rather a screenshot from the video) with the front shot of video I posted.

No one is claiming what the camps are about; that was my trying to paint a picture of what I was seeing. The point is that they are mystery camps in that everyone knows they are being built but none of the officials are talking to the people about them or what they are there for and the entrances are heavily guarded. One woman has on video a giant container labeled "tornado shelter" being trucked into one of the camps. (Don't you think that is creepy?) Let me know if you need for me to re-find that video so you can see it for yourself.

[Neighbor]

Also  there are a few charities racing everywhere to get donated RV's and transport them to North Carolina for emergency housing. OAN has featured some of that  on it's news.

 

[Marathoner]

Volunteers from New Mexico continue helping out in North Carolina. The response is nationwide. 

[Neighbor]

Florida also has many thousands of people now without shelter, may never really know how many. Plus the rebuilding  hurdles are so costly many are selling  their remaining home structure/land for what they can get.

Investors are scooping them up and reselling within 30 days at a margin  for themselves to larger investors that will build to new codes much bigger structures than were there before. At the end of it all the smaller home owner  will have a down payment for a new place somewhere else, and the much richer  individuals will buy up what will be super homes of  many millions of dollars each;  or new mid-rise condos that cost in the multiple millions per unit  that will be  just  vacation retreat places to them.

It will take years, but big investors similar to Black Rock have years and the money too.  

[tatwo]

Greetings @nebula...

Why are they lying about North Carolina and the region?

Ok…so who are “they” and what “lies” are you referring to…for clarity…and I read your OP and I have heard all that you listed there. Seems like there are a lot of folks echoing in agreement with the 6 things you listed…or is there more that you are referencing but did not post?

I have followed that event very closely since about 7-10 days prior to “Helene” hitting Florida…it is just something I do regularly for the last 20 years…storm watch. I have some friends and acquaintances who are professional “Storm Chasers” with complete tracking, measuring, and monitoring capabilities in their special vehicles…along with first responder capabilities.

There is plenty of censorship of the information surrounding the “creating” or “controlling” shall we say…of Helene or any modified storms. Of course if that were true…and by some measure it is…well then one can see why those who can do that…would “lie” to remain as covert as possible. Clearly it is another way to weaponize weather warfare…as we have seen a number of times over the last 100 years.

Yeh “weather modification or manipulation” has been going on for at least the last 100 years and there are companies for hire here in the US…that will do it for you…if you get the permits and the authorization from the regional governmental agencies in on it. Hundreds of patents have been granted…this is a growing business and it has been weaponized in some situations.

In fact there was an article that came out on 11/27/24 entitled…”Florida Republican Lawmaker Introduces Legislation to BAN Weather Engineering Amid Rising Concerns Over Climate Manipulation” Fits right? I mean few states have been hit harder than Florida over the last 50 + years.

At times it is a “land grab” in the most nefarious ways. In Florida for example a sizeable number and climbing…of insurance companies are not paying claims or are paying very little and some of these companies have left that state. There are more people than you might realize that had their properties ruined by storms that are not getting insurance money to pay of outstanding mortgages and debts due to Helene and Milton.

So the likely hood of evil intentions behind storms like “Helene” is plausible. There were nuclear fuel processing plants in the areas that Helene hit…along with some nuclear fuel storage facilities as well…some of that got into the rivers and ground water.

There are a number of rare earth mineral type elements in that same area…like “Chrystal…lithium” and others that were already being mined and excavated in that area of Tennessee and North Carolina.

Some of those things are considered necessary and thereby "valuable"...for the emerging “green new deal” energy markets.

There is more...that will do for now.

Tatwo...:)

 

[other one]

6 hours ago, nebula said:

Personal testimonies and video evidence are irrelevant?

Fine. Do what you must.

No one here seems to care about these people anyway.

 

 

[other one]

6 hours ago, nebula said:

Personal testimonies and video evidence are irrelevant?

Fine. Do what you must.

No one here seems to care about these people anyway.

 

 

[In the Clouds]

3 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

My comments weren't directed towards the situation itself, but rather the conspiracies surrounding them, which is what this topic is indeed about. No one is saying the hurricanes didn't happen or that it's not a dire situation.

What's in question is all the "they're intentionally doing this" or "fema is making concentration camps" stuff, that is clearly conspiracy theory material so yes this should be moved.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Sparks]

4 hours ago, nebula said:

I admit I was wrong in trying to describe the FEMA camps as "concentration camps;" I forgot this was a trigger word.

It is not as if the US has never had Internment Camps.  Here is one from Poston, Arizona in June of 1942.  Effectively, they are the same as Concentration Camps, in practice, with many overlapping features.  They were rough prisons where Americans were taken due to their 'race.'

More than 100,000 Japanese-Americans were relocated to internment camps during World War Two as a result of Franklin D. Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066, signed on Feb. 19, 1942.