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Can reasonably somebody explain this?


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57 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

Can reasonably somebody explain this?

Jesus’ message was upsetting the Jewish religious leaders, so they asked of Him a miraculous sign to prove Himself. Jesus responded; For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Matthew 12:40 The account of Jonah is not just a story for kids. It really happened. So is the account of Jesus. The Word of God affirms both. 

         Jesus was crucified Wednesday afternoon, spent Wednesday night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night and then Saturday in a borrowed tomb. 3 days, 3 nights. Sometime Saturday night, before sunrise Sunday morning, Jesus rose from the dead. God’s message hasn’t changed.

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, PATrobas said:

Jesus’ message was upsetting the Jewish religious leaders, so they asked of Him a miraculous sign to prove Himself. Jesus responded; For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Matthew 12:40 The account of Jonah is not just a story for kids. It really happened. So is the account of Jesus. The Word of God affirms both. 

 

         Jesus was crucified Wednesday afternoon, spent Wednesday night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night and then Saturday in a borrowed tomb. 3 days, 3 nights. Sometime Saturday night, before sunrise Sunday morning, Jesus rose from the dead. God’s message hasn’t changed.

 

 

 

Brother, I believe you are a minority with your reasoning.

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The information we have from the Bible is that:

1 - Jesus was crucified and buried before the change of day into the Passover festival. Remembering that the Hebrew change of day occurs at 6pm (or sunset) - and not midnight.

2 - Jesus spent three full days and nights in the grave.

3 - Jesus was not in the tomb on Sunday morning (after the Sabbath).

The day of crucifixion is not stated in scripture, however, with the above information, we can speculate that Jesus was crucified and buried on Wednesday before 6pm.

- Day 1: (also the first day of Passover) Jesus was in the grave Wednesday night to Thursday 6pm.

- Day 2: Jesus was in the grave Thursday night to Friday 6pm.

- Day 3: (also the Sabbath) Jesus was in the grave Friday night to Saturday 6pm.

We do not know what time Jesus left the tomb, but His grave was found with Him gone on Sunday morning.

I suspect the "Friday" crucifixion tradition is more about convenience to the weekend (though I have not investigated this).

 

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3 hours ago, BlindSeeker said:

Can reasonably somebody explain this?

I never really looked into it. How do we know it was Friday that Jesus was crucified?


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6 hours ago, Luther said:

I never really looked into it. How do we know it was Friday that Jesus was crucified?

We know that He was raised on the first day of the week (i.e. Sunday). (Mark 16:9, John 20:1) And we know that back in those times, people counted any part of a 24-hr day as a whole day. So Friday afternoon/evening (1 day) plus the whole of Saturday (1 day) plus Saturday night (because the Jewish day begins at sunset) makes 3 days.

Jesus Himself prophesied that He would be raised "on the third day" (Matthew 16:21, 20:19). So again, if He was raised on the Sunday than He must have been crucified on the Friday. And Paul confirms this (I Corinthians 15:4).

 

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How many Sabbaths were back to back at Passover in the year our Lord was crucified ( One, two, or three)?

For a less often presented view when people debate  see https://apologeticspress.org/did-jesus-rise-on-or-after-the-third-day-756/ where three days and three nights are literally three days and three nights.

 


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Was proof of death, physical death, evidenced by the stink of a human remains?

Was there a minimum time recognized that a body set in a tomb/ledge would  then be be  proven dead? 

Seems there was,  and that it is casually mentioned  regarding Lazarus' death.

Lazarus Raised from the Dead

..."Then Jesus, again groaning in Himself, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it. Jesus said, “Take away the stone.”

Martha, the sister of him who was dead, said to Him, “Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been dead four days.”

Jesus said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the glory of God?”  Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead man was lying. And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.  And I know that You always hear Me, but because of the people who are standing by I said this, that they may believe that You sent Me.”  Now when He had said these things, He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!”  And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with grave clothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”

 


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Three things might help:

1. Friday comes from Roman Catholic tradition. Their calculations have to fit occult criteria. Easter is calculated by the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox (Northern Hem.)

2. The lamb had to be inspected for four days for blemishes then slaughtered. Add 3 full Hebrew days and fit it backwards from sunset Saturday evening. Wednesday!

3. Remember to calculate Biblical / Hebrew days. They start and end at sunset.

Wednesday!

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9 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Was proof of death, physical death, evidenced by the stink of a human remains?

Was there a minimum time recognized that a body set in a tomb/ledge would  then be be  proven dead? 

Seems there was,  and that it is casually mentioned  regarding Lazarus' death.

Lazarus Raised from the Dead

..."Then Jesus, again groaning in Himself, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it. Jesus said, “Take away the stone.”

Martha, the sister of him who was dead, said to Him, “Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been dead four days.”

Jesus said to her, “Did I not say to you that if you would believe you would see the glory of God?”  Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead man was lying. And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.  And I know that You always hear Me, but because of the people who are standing by I said this, that they may believe that You sent Me.”  Now when He had said these things, He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!”  And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with grave clothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”

 

But the prophesy concerning the resurrection of him is no corruption.

Ac 13:34  And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. {mercies: Gr. holy, or just things: which word the Septuagint in many places, uses for that which is in the Hebrew, mercies }
Ac 13:35  Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Ac 13:36  For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: {after … : or, after he had in his own age served the will of God }
Ac 13:37  But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption

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