Elon Musk dismantling the Federal Government

[ayin jade]

At least musk is taking care of his kids.

Is he any different than any other lost person? Hasnt everyone committed sins in their lives? He is still someone who needs Christ.

[tatwo]

2 hours ago, other one said:

BTW, concerning the op and the text of the title, Elon is not dismantling the government.  Donald Trump is.   Elon is working for him, showing him where the corruption and mis spending is.  It is Trump that has the authority to stop it, and he is.

Ok…so that is your opinion…I can respect that other one…Donald Trump is dismantling the government as you state…then admittedly you see that the government is being dismantled? And you think the President can and is stopping it? Additionally you are of the opinion that Elon works for the President of the United States? 

May I ask…do you put any weight on the fact that it was Elon who funded the RNC and Donald Trump’s Presidential Campaign…with a absurdly monstrous amount of $$$? This was after he…with the help of a couple of his global capitalist broligarch's purchased “Twitter”…exposed the lefts censorship and then rolled out his own version of censorship…in a different manner? Do you "other one" think that any of this matters?

Are you at all acquainted with “Project 2025”…and the President’s nomination of many of the players in that effort…are you aware of who some of those players are…in terms of his cabinet and the staffing of project 2025…along with what some of these characters have been involved in and doing for the last 20+ years?

I am not saying that you are wrong here other one…just inquiring as to what you actually know about the situation?

Tatwo...:)

[other one]

13 minutes ago, tatwo said:

Ok…so that is your opinion…I can respect that other one…Donald Trump is dismantling the government as you state…then admittedly you see that the government is being dismantled? And you think the President can and is stopping it? Additionally you are of the opinion that Elon works for the President of the United States? 

When I say dismantling the government, it's the so called deep state that has overtaken our original republic.  Our government has not been a constitutional republic for decades.  They are trying to restore it to what it was originally intended.

[nebula]

3 hours ago, tatwo said:

True…nebula…true…but there is more…David was a prophesied king over and deliverer of Israel from which Yahshua would come…and Sampson was an Israelite with a Nazarite vow from the womb…whose birth was prophesied via the angel of the Lord…to function in the capacity of deliverer of Israel in a more specific capacity also. These men were “sons of God”…in that they served His Kingdom on earth in their day.

So…I am not saying that you are wrong here…just that there is more to the stories of the men you listed…that failed God…and yet He used them.

Do you see or know of this type of call of God upon Elon Musk’s life nebula? And do you think any of this matters?

Tatwo...:)

My point was that focusing on on Elon's sexual life has nothing to do with his government job, and does God want us to be judges and arbiters over everyone's sin? 

The statement I was responding to comes across as a judgment/smear campaign. I was challenging the justification for doing this.

[nebula]

3 hours ago, tatwo said:

If I understand what you are saying here nebula…I think there’s a problem with this statement from a Kingdom of God mindset…perhaps you will allow me to share my thoughts here…thank you...it may be complicated?

Yes, it was.

I would call it confusing your opponent into defeat.

I've got too much going on in my life right now to deal with theological argument perfectionism.

[missmuffet]

Is it too much in our world today to ask for good character, integrity and morals in a Government leader? Some would say it doesn't matter.

[1to3]

10 hours ago, nebula said:

King David committed adultery and had the woman's husband killed, but God still used him, and we still quote his psalms.

Sampson was a moral failure, but God still used him.

Yes, it is sad that Elon has this tragic flaw of character, and I wouldn't select him for any kind of spiritual wisdom or leadership, but it isn't grounds for judging his governmental work. 

 

So a mans personal lifestyle is not grounds for judging his governmental work?

If you are corrupt in one way what makes you reason you will n0t be corrupt in other if your moral conscience is Not morally God centred?

There is a difference of those that repent and those that choose n0t to.

King David did repent for his sins, most notably his adultery with Bathsheba, after being confronted by the prophet Nathan; his repentance is prominently displayed in Psalm 51, where he expresses deep remorse and asks for God's forgiveness

Kind David repented for his sins and asked God for forgiveness.

Despite all that God did not allow King David to build a temple for Him.

because David shed to much blood.

1 Chronicles 28:3: "But God said to me, 'You shall not build a house for My name because you are a man of war and have shed blood'"

 

Samson also repented

The Bible's book of Judges 16:4–22 describes Samson falling in love with Delilah, which led to his humiliation and repentance

In Judges 16:22, it says, "But the hair of his head began to grow again after it had been shaved.

Samson's humiliation led to repentance, renewed faith, and dependence on the Lord

Samson's plea for forgiveness and restoration reveals his understanding that his source of power was not merely physical, but rooted in the favor of God. God, in His abundant mercy, responds to Samson's plea. He hears the cry of His wayward servant and grants him one final surge of strength

[tatwo]

12 hours ago, other one said:

When I say dismantling the government, it's the so called deep state that has overtaken our original republic.  

Thank you for the clarification...somehow I missed that.

12 hours ago, other one said:

Our government has not been a constitutional republic for decades.  They are trying to restore it to what it was originally intended.

That's a possibility I suppose...I think you may be surprised however. You did not respond to my questions about Elon's role in the election...nor did you respond to my questions about "Project 2025"...no worry other one...no worry.

None the less...a good understanding of those two scenarios and their related people and plans  produces a much different picture than you suggest. 

I think we are seeing an attempt to corporatize the U.S. government and privatize as many agencies as they can while doing away with that which they feel are unnecessary. It would seem that this may be "different" than was originally intended.

Success or fail...the American people are going to have a mess...something most folks don't want to talk about.

Tatwo...:)

Edited March 3 by tatwo

[tatwo]

12 hours ago, nebula said:

I would call it confusing your opponent into defeat.

Sorry nebula...and judging all men by the standard of Christ is the only method for knowing what's in a mans soul.

12 hours ago, nebula said:

I've got too much going on in my life right now to deal with theological argument perfectionism.

I was not trying to be "perfect in my theological argument" as you suggest...merely hold you accountable to your words. However if your being challenged in your life today...I pray that your journey is successful brother nebula.

Tatwo...:)  

[tatwo]

12 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Is it too much in our world today to ask for good character, integrity and morals in a Government leader? Some would say it doesn't matter.

It would seem like it missmuffet...integrity and morals in leadership seems to be lost in this day altogether. I say it does matter...how a man lives...and the fruit of his life...put on display his judgment...today.

Tatwo...:)