I love my King James Bible, but ...

[Michael37]

5 hours ago, Sower said:

I remember pre internet. I found the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance. Started using it. Wow. Every single word! Found where I could buy them for ten bucks ea and bought ten more and passed them out. Also acquired the Interlinear Greek-English New testament w/lexicon. When at a bible study someone would utter those famous words "what this really means" I would ck it out in the Strongs and then apply in the interlinear NT.  It always meant what the scriptures said. What God said is what it meant.

I use the Bible Hub online a lot now with E-sword on my phone. The Bible Hub has over forty versions of the Bible. When responding to someone's scripture I can click back a verse or chapter and get context simply, then respond. 

I honestly believe if I was  more a doer of what I learn than just hearer/reader I would be more on target and please the Lord more.   Where the rubber meets the road, as J,Vernon McGee used to say...
When I sow seed it is almost always my paraphrased version to enable understanding, as unto a little child, and not to a theologian.
 

Thanks

Yes, some have been falsely taught only a centuries old English version of the Bible is the "real" one. 

The Apostle Paul explains in every language the Bible has been translated into, that the Word of God is not deō, not manacled so as to be limited in its readership.

King James Version (KJV): "Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evildoer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound."

New International Version (NIV): "For which I am suffering even to the point of being chained like a criminal. But God’s word is not chained."

New Living Translation (NLT): "And because I preach this Good News, I am suffering and have been chained like a criminal. But the word of God cannot be chained."

English Standard Version (ESV): "for which I am suffering, bound with chains as a criminal. But the word of God is not bound!"

New King James Version (NKJV): "for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained."

Christian Standard Bible (CSB): "I suffer for it to the point of being bound like a criminal, but the word of God is not bound."

New American Standard Bible (NASB): "for which I suffer hardship even to imprisonment as a criminal; but the word of God is not imprisoned."

Revised Standard Version (RSV): "the gospel for which I am suffering and wearing fetters like a criminal. But the word of God is not fettered."

The Message (MSG): "This is my life work: helping people understand and respond to this Message. It’s worth it, even if I’m imprisoned in chains. But God’s Word isn’t in chains!"

Amplified Bible (AMP): "for that [gospel] I am suffering even to the point of wearing chains like a criminal; but the word of God is not chained or imprisoned!"

[ayin jade]

If I may add, from a couple of the versions I read that you did not quote from ...

MKJV  in which I suffer ill as an evildoer, even to bonds. But the Word of God is not chained.

MEV in which I suffer trouble like a criminal, even with chains. But the word of God is not bound.

[Alive]

3 hours ago, ayin jade said:

The kjv is a translation, just like the others are translations. Tne kjv contains biases in its translations, that do not affect the gospel but are still not true translations of the original greek or hebrew words.

The kjv isnt a bad translation but neither is it a perfect translation.

Yup.

[Ray12614]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

Yup.

For this particular verse it seems to me they are all saying the same thing . . . which is expected and good.

Problems can arise when we get lazy and don't check multiple versions. Sometimes when we check multi translations sometimes 'outliers' will appear that should be checked out further to see if they are correct or possibly contain doctrinal or denominational bias. Its rare, but since translators are people it could be possible, right?

[Alive]

8 minutes ago, Ray12614 said:

For this particular verse it seems to me they are all saying the same thing . . . which is expected and good.

Problems can arise when we get lazy and don't check multiple versions. Sometimes when we check multi translations sometimes 'outliers' will appear that should be checked out further to see if they are correct or possibly contain doctrinal or denominational bias. Its rare, but since translators are people it could be possible, right?

Yes--being studious is always a good thing.

Two points:

1. The Lord is our Shepherd and He takes care of His own

2. Of much more concern are the 'notes' in columns

[Michael37]

10 hours ago, ayin jade said:

If I may add, from a couple of the versions I read that you did not quote from ...

MKJV  in which I suffer ill as an evildoer, even to bonds. But the Word of God is not chained.

MEV in which I suffer trouble like a criminal, even with chains. But the word of God is not bound.

I do like the Modern King James Version (MKJV) and the Berean Study Bible (BSB). 

Delighting to meditate on the precepts of God, that's the thing.

[WilliamL]

I got so fed up with being snookered by badly mistranslated verses in the various versions, that I finally just learned Hebrew and Greek grammar. Took awhile, and I'm much more comfortable with Hebrew than Greek.

The wide and wild variations among the versions in the important passage of Daniel 9:24-27 is probably what teed me off the most. Unbelievable liberties taken with the Hebrew grammar, and a shifting from the Hebrew version to the Septuagint version with no justification whatsoever. Gives a real clue to the latent baises among translators when it comes to controversial passages.

[TheBlade]

Maybe do a deep search and see if you can find those that were sinless as they translated the text the original. How can one run with this yet  "impossible to definitively" and "suggests"?  See its this "evidence" but its odd the OP didn't bring up "evidence that he wasn’t." Then leaving out those that say its all "fabrication". Yeah there is so much more to this then what's being shared and its not new. 

Homosexual is a sin just as much as that little tiny "white" A little tiny "white lie" that fibs is a small, insignificant untruth told to avoid hurting someone or to spare them from an unpleasant truth, often considered harmless." Oops this is what the world thinks. 

 A believer running with the negative? Were running with something we cannot know for fact. One could flip it just as easy saying maybe he did repent before.. no? Where's your faith? 

Every one of those bibles man touched it. All have sinned and fallen short and there is none righteous not one so get in line. Read NT? Paul? I am the chief of sinners. What GOD never forgave Him? We know he repented of any sin before any letter he wrote? Ever read about David and Jonathan? 

The song.. its because of what you've done. When did you become spotless? Yeah.. you never were its Him. Its your belief in Him your trust in Him.  It is so hard to let go of the fact you are not holy you are not righteous. Nothing you do will ever make you help you become righteous. Its the same with giving GOD all the glory. I have know some great men and women of GOD and some of them you would never ever would have know "I give God all the glory but I like to keep 10% for myself". 

So as holy and righteous we think we are  we not. For I will never know how much it cost to see my sin upon that cross.... song playing. Its all Him.. 

[BibleStudent100]

On 3/12/2025 at 7:18 PM, Ghostdog said:

the only true Bible.  And if you're not using a KJB you're probably not saved." 

well i guess anybody who doesnt speak english isnt saved

So true Ghostdog!

I am an English teacher and our students have so much trouble with Shakespearean literature that most teachers have given up and use modern day "translations" of the standard plays, such as Hamlet, Othello, etc.  And of course, the KJV was written 5 years before Shakespeare's death.  Language changes and what is readable at one time becomes increasingly difficult to read, so new translations are needed. 

The KJV has by far the most poetic language imaginable, but newer translations take advantage of more original texts that have been discovered in Israel over the decades.