RFID.

[Knight of Christ]

Avidan

You curnt line of descion is leading me to think that you suport the post trib thery, is this true? I am just wondering.

[other one]

mabey YAHWEH will wake you to pray for me. I need a job bad.

consider it done....

[Avidan]

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quote name='Knight of Christ' date='Nov 27 2005, 05:00 AM' post='477120]

Avidan

You curnt line of descion is leading me to think that you suport the post trib thery, is this true? I am just wondering.

[Avidan]

mabey YAHWEH will wake you to pray for me. I need a job bad.

consider it done....

Thank you Father for Sam. ( Otherone).

I live in a town of 35 thousand.

Half are full welfare recipients.

The welfare dept. case load is so great, they cannot keep up with what they have.

Eight major industries have closed in the past 5 years. Locally.

Overall 400,000 jobs state wide have gone to other countries. In the State. Pa. Past five years.

There is homes here for 30 thousand all day. Nice ones.

A friend buys them every year for $3-4 thousand at tax sells. They need work, but not bad.

And there is always many UN-sold.

A massive drug problem-heroin and crack.

A very strong lieing spirit hovers here. It is very oppressed as well. Very.

A unusally high aids rate per capita.

And cancers.

I have one of the nicest homes in the city. For sell. Wanna buy it? Sixty thousand.

Neither does anyone else. Who wants to live here?

[SpiritLedEd]

United States to Require RFID Chips in Passports

State Department says controversial chips enhance security.

Grant Gross, IDG News Service

Wednesday, October 26, 2005

source http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,123246,00.asp

WASHINGTON -- By October 2006, the U.S. government will require nearly all of the passports it issues to include a computer chip containing the passport holder's personal information, according to regulations published this week.

Starting in early 2006, the U.S. Department of State will begin issuing passports with 64-kilobyte RFID (radio frequency identification) chips that will contain the name, nationality, gender, date of birth, and place of birth of the passport holder, as well as a digitized photograph of that person.

The chip's contents will match the data on the paper portion of the passport, improving passport security by making it more difficult for criminals to tamper with passports, backers say. U.S. government efforts to make passports harder to forge began in response to the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001.

Opposition

After the State Department proposed last February to include RFID chips in passports, privacy groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation expressed concern. Because some RFID chips can be scanned remotely, criminals may be able to covertly scan groups of passport holders at airports, the EFF said in April. RFID passports could thus act as "terrorist beacons," as well as indiscriminately exposing U.S. residents' personal information to strangers.

In a letter commenting on the State Department proposal, the EFF argued that the agency lacked congressional authority to require RFID chips in passports.

"RFID in passports is a terrible idea, period," said EFF senior attorney Lee Tien, in a posting to the EFF's Web site. "But on top of that, the State Department is acting without the appropriate authority and without conducting any form of credible cost-benefit analysis. It's asking Americans to sacrifice their safety and privacy 'up front' for a dangerous experiment that it hasn't even bothered to justify."

The State Department received 2335 public comments on its February proposal to introduce electronic passports. More than 98 percent of the comments were negative, the State Department said, and most of them raised issues about security and privacy.

Security Precautions

In the passport rules it released Tuesday, the State Department said that it was taking several security precautions. The RFID chips will use encrypted digital signatures to prevent tampering; and they will be so-called passive RFID chips, which do not broadcast personal information unless within inches of an RFID reader machine. To protect against data leaks, the e-passports will come with an "antiskimming" material that blocks radio waves on the passport's back and spine, the State Department notice said.

The new passports would comply with an International Civil Aviation Organization specification on e-passports, the State Department said.

Though the State Department moved away from its earlier proposal of a self-powered RFID chip in favor of a passive one that relies on a reader machine's power, privacy concerns remain, said Barry Steinhardt, director of the ACLU's Technology and Liberty Program. Steinhardt called the State Department's security measures a "step forward," but he said bar codes could be used to match electronic data with paper data on passports.

"It still raises the question [of] whether or not this is an appropriate technology," Steinhardt said. "There are still some essential concerns about whether this is secure or not."

But Neville Pattinson, director of technology and Government affairs for Texas RFID card vendor Axalto, praised the State Department's changes, including the passive chips and antiskimming materials. "This is a fine example of the government listening to public opinion and adopting technology that protects citizen's privacy," he said. "With the changes, information cannot be extracted from it."

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Ya, right. If it was made by man, it will be defeated by man.

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Give this some intelligent thought.

How will a chip, enchance security?

Remember when those accused of 9-11, received there extensions on there visas, after they were identified as the "culprits "of 9-11?

If the passport already has the info, why need a chip?

The U.S. is warming the masses, as it steadily brings the day of the Mark. The U.S. will usher this in.

And those whose "allegiance" is to anthing but YHSHWH-GOD ( the masses of churchianity) will line up and say""put it here", while extending there right hand.

Watch.

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But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you and pray for them that despitefully use you and persecute you. (Matt. 5: 43-44)

Avidan:

Ideally, the U. S. Government's passport system MIGHT reduce paperwork and speed up application processing time through RFID . This might be expected to streamline the system and protect against identity theft (since no other person will know what is on the chip, if I remember correctly). Efficiently streamlining the system could save millions of tax dollars annually.

I say "Ideally" because nearly 32 years experience in the U.S. Postal Service taught me that bureaucracy works against increased efficiency, not in favor of it. And any new systems purchased might be outmoded before they are finally brought on line.

SLE

[irishcowboy]

well the just blows not to mention veary depressing for me.

The reasion being is that I like to travel to other countries whenever i can aford to, and to do so for at least some countrys a pass port is nessacery to enter the country not to mention the fact that i missplaced mine sometime agaio and can't seem to find it and if i can't that means I will have to get a new one issued soon.

Pluse there goes the price of the freekin things. it was ten dollars where i live it will probly be closer to a hundred after this.

KNIGHT, Each time one uses the technologys that are out there to make positive I.D., or prevent I.D. theft ( cooough) then one warms them self to these things.

I quit my job. I refuse to get a "national Federal I.D. card". required of people who work in Federal positions, and or "classified", jobs. I was earning $60,000, annually. I am now a welfare recipiant. TWO years now. I will probably not renew my driver licence. It too is going R.F.I.D.

better read up on what the Bible says about being a slackared.....(lazy)

there are more and more people living off of the government every year...

pretty soon, we will be in a socialist state, where no one ownes anything and we all get our monies from the government and everyone works and no one is free... we are almost there now.............

I work for my self, no ID other then drivers license is carried with me. and I still pay way tooooooo much tax, i gues cause i am supporting not only my own family but also yours...... gee wiz......... what i coulld do with half of the tax money i pay in....... wow, what could God do with all that monies that we are giving to satans use.

the Prayer House across the stree sure could use some to finish it up, being there is no income being generated by it, and there are utilities to be paid and insurance and other upkeep ( privately funded by one family ) for the use of any and all people in the community.......

what gets me is how many people that are on hud, or other social services assistance are able to afford beer, cigarettes and soda pop as well as many other things. even a car and money for fuel......

if a person is not working, and is not planing to work, they do not need a vehicle to cost the rest of the tax payers more taxes... they do not need an appartment or house that gives every person their own room. they do not need to live in a 100,000 dollar or higher house. they do not need to have a monster screen TV and several recliners and massive stereo system to sit on their butts all day long and sponge off of those that are diligent in their work and earning their own way and paying taxes as upstanding citizens.....

the Military has had ID cards for a very very very long time. so ahve all government workers, so do most health care workers, and so do many factory workers. police, fire and ambulance workers also have had to have and carry ID with them for ages.....

to me it sounds as if you have found and EXCUSE ( not a reason but excuse ) not to work.

I may be wrong, but this is what it sounds like to me.

mike

[Avidan]

QUOTE:better read up on what the Bible says about being a slackared.....(lazy)

You "mysteriously" overlooked the facts, Mr. Selfrighteous, Republican,

I worked in Commercial fishing for 12 plus years, Mr. Dweeb!!

People like you get on the boats "thinking" you can do the work!!!!

We take you back to town in tears, by the second day. You never knew work.

there are more and more people living off of the government every year...

Thank the greed of the American GOV, Mr. republican, that is why. Thank Regan who started the OUTSOURCE plague, followed by Clinton, Bush is driving the final nail in the coffin.

pretty soon, we will be in a socialist state, where no one ownes anything and we all get our monies from the government and everyone works and no one is free... we are almost there now.............

Ya think?!!!! You own nothing now Mr. Republican. You bought into the lie.

Think because your home has no mortgage you "OWN IT"??? Think again. Pay the annual tax, or they confiscate the house.

OH, your car is paid off? really? Pay the annual registration Mr.

if not the "state" will tow, and sell it.

You own nothing!!

I work for my self, no ID other then drivers license is carried with me. and I still pay way tooooooo much tax, i gues cause i am supporting not only my own family but also yours...... gee wiz.........

You will have to work another 70 years to match my tax bracket, MR. republican commpassionate. Baaarf....

what i coulld do with half of the tax money i pay in....... wow, what could God do with all that monies that we are giving to satans use.

Again Mr. Selfrighteous, you fund the mass slaughter of innocents, with tax based abortions.

You fund the murder of innocents in Iraq, the Iraqis did nothing to your country, Nothing, MR Bush, Christian, went in and stole the oil. " IN JESUS NAME"...the Americans came, killing 100,000 people to give them a "better-way" of life.

Why, just ask the Indians, the blacks, the Puerto Ricans( 99% on welfare) ET.....

if a person is not working, and is not planing to work, they do not need a vehicle to cost the rest of the tax payers more taxes... they do not need an appartment or house that gives every person their own room. they do not need to live in a 100,000 dollar or higher house. they do not need to have a monster screen TV and several recliners and massive stereo system to sit on their butts all day long and sponge off of those that are diligent in their work and earning their own way and paying taxes as upstanding citizens.....

Ya, your an upstanding citizen alright. A true blue American, hey why don't you start a campaing to kick all those people out of there homes, and put them in the street? This way you can spit on them, MR "Christian">

I may be wrong, but this is what it sounds like to me.

You are not wrong, you do not know the difference. In order to know wrong and right, you must first know HE who made the distinctions.

You are still blind. Still living in sin, OH, I know"Why we have been going to church for 40 years". We are "good citizens" as well.

That answers it right there.

You are lost.

Mr. Selfrighteous.

Your day is coming!!

Edited November 29, 2005 by Avidan

[damar91]

I know I'm new here, but this sure doesn't sound like a disccussion you would find on a Christian message board. Calm yourselves and remember who is in control!

[Avidan]

I know I'm new here, but this sure doesn't sound like a disccussion you would find on a Christian message board. Calm yourselves and remember who is in control!

I agree, but "hey, things happen".

I simply responded, to serious accusations.

[Avidan]

MIKE, I went to your web site, This caught my eye:

I am a servant of Jesus Christ,

The Lord has blessed me with the talent of the Holy Ghost writng poems through me. When God gives a talent it needs to be used and shared for lifting up, encouraging, and just helping others to grow in him.

Now review your post.

You call that "lifting-up".?

Hardly.

Better evaluate your stand with GOD.

If it ever existed.