Did God create Adam & Eve being that there were already people on Earth?

[enoob57]

It is important to understand-> the 'Bible' must speak on it's own merit to all times and cultures and because it says this

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

noting the ability to make... shows that it's sufficiency is within itself, and interpretation is merely a means in which to allow this reality to come forth...

So, when there is dispute on what the Bible is reading -one must consider this reality above to determine whether or not the person is allowing the Scripture to speak, so to say, for itself or an outside source is influencing the understanding... granting it is work as God has said

2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)

[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

and the whole of Scripture must be brought into any finished conclusions

Isaiah 28:9 (KJV)

[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Is it hard and difficult? Yes, because God has designed it so

Matthew 7:14 (KJV)

[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

There is no alternatives to rightly dividing Scripture for all one must ask themselves ->is there anything more important than what God has said<-

Jeremiah 29:13 (KJV)

[13] And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

 

[luigi]

On 4/12/2025 at 2:31 PM, Marston said:

Were they supposed to be his "special" people?  

Homo Sapiens have been around for over 200,000 years. They just didn't have Love, as God is Love according to 1 John 4:8 & 16. Love is the image in which God/Love created Adam and Eve.

[In1]

On 4/12/2025 at 2:31 PM, Marston said:

Were they supposed to be his "special" people?  

That is similar to asking where did Cain get a wife ... or is God a tree (of life) and does knowledge actually grow on a tree, and those hung on one ... are cursed ...

[FreeGrace]

On 4/13/2025 at 7:13 PM, tharkun said:

To the OP - it's important to note that scritpure follows genealogical descent, not genetic descent. There's no contradiction in supposing that other people were outside the garden and A&E were specially created and placed in the garden to be His image-bearers on earth. Genetically, there's no problem with the line of A&E intermixing with those outside the garden. It can be shown that by the time fo Christ, all would be descendents of A&E. Refer to S Joshua Swamidass' 'The Genealogical Adam and Eve' for more details.

Acts 17:26 - From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.

1 Cor 15:45 - Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

1 Cor 15:47 - The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; (Gen 2:7) the second man is from heaven.

Why don't these verses end all argument?  No humans before Adam.

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Acts 17:26 - From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.

1 Cor 15:45 - Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

1 Cor 15:47 - The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; (Gen 2:7) the second man is from heaven.

Why don't these verses end all argument?  No humans before Adam.

Maybe because not everyone believes it that way, as that isn't what is actually seen when you get back to the originals... 

First verse above... Is the word 'man' (Acts 17:26) even found in the original Greek? Or did some man just conclude it to be that one day?   If it can be found in any of them, what one and what Strong's number is given to it?  


Next, 1 Corinth 15:45 and just going by the logic you have put forth....

If the first Adam was the first of all mankind, then 'mankind' would have/should have ended at the 2nd Adam, correct?  Since it didn't, it would seem that isn't the 'progression' being spoken of here.    


Have you ever given any thought to maybe this first Adam was actually the first of the bloodline though which Jesus would come and not ALL mankind upon the earth, and once Jesus was born of that 'bloodline', naturally ended, truly making Him indeed the last of that progression? 

 
I think the 'them' He created before Adam, were not of that 'spiritual' bloodline but  of the natural 'earth' mankind ...kinda like what follows in the next verse


1 Cor 15:46 However not first [was] the spiritual, but the natural, then the spiritual

4152   relating to the realm of spirit, i.e. the invisible sphere in which the Holy Spirit imparts faith, reveals Christ, etc.

5591  Natural, unspiritual, worldly



Then, 1 Corinth 15:47 (which is possibly the answer to  'what one thing' might all nations come from...like the DUST of the earth) 

47  The first man [was] from [the] earth, made of dust, the second man from heaven…


Now, taking it back to Gen...

And said God 'let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness and let them rule over the fish…. 


1:27  So created God man in his [own] image in the image of God He created Him, male and female He created them 

1254 Create, shape, form

That is worth some pondering...

Gen
2:5 And any plant of the field before was in the earth and any herb of the field before had grown for not had caused it to rain YHVH God on the earth and man (wə·’ā·ḏām) [there was] not to cultivate the ground

2:7 And formed YHVH God man (ha a-dam) [from] the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and became the man a being living

3335 To form, fashion, create

just noting the different words used and pondering what should we be trying to figure out...


But here is what I believe is the MAJOR PROBLEM of no men first...in Gen 4

13  And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15  And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16  And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.  17  And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18  And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.  

19  And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20  And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21  And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22  And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23  And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24  If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

25  And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26  And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Cain has enoch 30 years
Enoch has irad 30 years
Irad has Mehujael 30 years
Mehujael has Methusael 30 years
Methusael has Lamech 30 years  about 150 years and that is just completely guessing at those numbers....but it sure is mighty close to...

and WHY would Cain need a 'mark' if the only people on earth were his own family members?  That totally makes no sense.


Genesis 5:3  And lived Adam thirty and a hundred years and begat in his own likeness after his image and he called his name Seth


Clearly, Seth was Adams next born so Cain could only marry from the male and female created He 'them' on the 6th day.   And also the explanation of where the land of Nod came from  

If we just take what is written and don't add to it, it all works out quite well. 

BUT that can only be done when all the conjecture and conclusions of man are taken off the table.  Wouldn't that be amazing...

[FreeGrace]

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

FreeGrace said:

Acts 17:26 - From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.

1 Cor 15:45 - Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

1 Cor 15:47 - The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; (Gen 2:7) the second man is from heaven.

Why don't these verses end all argument?  No humans before Adam.

Maybe because not everyone believes it that way, as that isn't what is actually seen when you get back to the originals...

OK, why doesn't everyone "believe it that way"?  The verses are clear enough.

And what are you referring to as "the originals".  Original what?

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

 First verse above... Is the word 'man' (Acts 17:26) even found in the original Greek? Or did some man just conclude it to be that one day?   If it can be found in any of them, what one and what Strong's number is given to it?

Is Acts 17:26 that unclear?  From ONE man God made all the nations.  What's not to understand.  The entire human race came from ONE MAN.  Real simple.  Adam's name didn't need to appear in the verse.  And why ask me?  You can go to biblehub.com yourself and see for yourself.

The majority of translations have "one man".  There were several "one blood", one "human being".

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Next, 1 Corinth 15:45 and just going by the logic you have put forth....

If the first Adam was the first of all mankind, then 'mankind' would have/should have ended at the 2nd Adam, correct?

Now, why should that be "correct".  Adam was the first human being.  Read Gen 2:7.  Please give some rationale for why 'mankind' should or should have ENDED at the 2nd Adam.

Paul was simply making the point that Adam was the first human being, just as Gen 2:7 shows.  And he came from dust.  But the 2nd Adam, Jesus, came from heaven.  Just as Adam brought sin into the world (Rom 5:12-19) so Jesus brought justification for mankind.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Since it didn't, it would seem that isn't the 'progression' being spoken of here. 

The logic of your comment isn't logical.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Have you ever given any thought to maybe this first Adam was actually the first of the bloodline though which Jesus would come and not ALL mankind upon the earth, and once Jesus was born of that 'bloodline', naturally ended, truly making Him indeed the last of that progression?

No, because that is also very illogical.  I read the Bible for what it says.  Seems some, or many, think they can read between the lines and come up with all sorts of illogical things.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I think the 'them' He created before Adam, were not of that 'spiritual' bloodline but  of the natural 'earth' mankind ...kinda like what follows in the next verse

No, that would be Adam, he came from the natural earth.  Again, Gen 2:7 says so.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

1 Cor 15:46 However not first [was] the spiritual, but the natural, then the spiritual
4152   relating to the realm of spirit, i.e. the invisible sphere in which the Holy Spirit imparts faith, reveals Christ, etc.
5591  Natural, unspiritual, worldly

Just more reading between the lines, where there are NO words, just lots of speculations.

Adam was the FIRST human being and brought condemnation into the world through sin, and Jesus is the SECOND Adam, who brought justification to the world.  Rom 5

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Then, 1 Corinth 15:47 (which is possibly the answer to  'what one thing' might all nations come from...like the DUST of the earth)
47  The first man [was] from [the] earth, made of dust, the second man from heaven…

What's not to understand here?  Gen 2:7 SAYS Adam was formed from the dust of the ground, and therefore everyone born also comes from that same dust.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Now, taking it back to Gen...

And said God 'let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness and let them rule over the fish…. 

1:27  So created God man in his [own] image in the image of God He created Him, male and female He created them 

1254 Create, shape, form
That is worth some pondering...

No need to ponder at all.  Or specuate or guess.  Gen 1:26,27 is a specific reference to man being created in the image of the Trinity, or Godhead.  

So, you might ask, what does that mean?  Thanks for asking.  1 Thess 5:23 tells us how man is in the image of the Trinity.  Human spirit, soul, and body.  

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Gen
2:5 And any plant of the field before was in the earth and any herb of the field before had grown for not had caused it to rain YHVH God on the earth and man (wə·’ā·ḏām) [there was] not to cultivate the ground

Irrelevant.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

2:7 And formed YHVH God man (ha a-dam) [from] the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and became the man a being living

Totally relevant.  What God breathed into his nose was the soul-spirit complex.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

3335 To form, fashion, create

just noting the different words used and pondering what should we be trying to figure out...

Again, nothing to ponder or have to figure out.  When the Trinity created man, they made him with 3 parts:  soul, spirit, and body.  Real simple.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

But here is what I believe is the MAJOR PROBLEM of no men first...in Gen 4

13  And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15  And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16  And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.  17  And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18  And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.  

19  And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20  And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21  And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22  And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23  And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24  If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

25  And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26  And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

Cain has enoch 30 years
Enoch has irad 30 years
Irad has Mehujael 30 years
Mehujael has Methusael 30 years
Methusael has Lamech 30 years  about 150 years and that is just completely guessing at those numbers....but it sure is mighty close to...

Go ahead and speculate what is "mighty close to....".

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

and WHY would Cain need a 'mark' if the only people on earth were his own family members?  That totally makes no sense.

If you read Genesis literally, there were no others before Adam, and Paul actually makes that point.  I always defer to Scripture, rather than speculation.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Genesis 5:3  And lived Adam thirty and a hundred years and begat in his own likeness after his image and he called his name Seth
Clearly, Seth was Adams next born so Cain could only marry from the male and female created He 'them' on the 6th day.   And also the explanation of where the land of Nod came from

Just speculation.  Scripture doesn't say what you say.  I follow the Bereans, per Acts 17:11.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

  If we just take what is written and don't add to it, it all works out quite well. 

Which is exactly what I do, and NOT speculate as some do.

55 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

BUT that can only be done when all the conjecture and conclusions of man are taken off the table.  Wouldn't that be amazing...

Ok, start clearing your table.  Truth is always amazing.

What we don't know is how often Eve bore children.  Some have said it wouldn't take all that long for lots of people to be born.  No reason to speculate that they would all huddle close together, like in a neighborhood.  

We can't explain everything when God didn't give us all the details.  Just believe what is written, and leave all speculation out of it.

The title of this thread is about the assumption/speculation that there were already people on earth before Adam was created.  The Bible doesn't give us that option.

[DeighAnn]

25 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

And what are you referring to as "the originals".  Original what?

Hebrew and Greek the translators used.  

 

26 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

The majority of translations have "one man".  There were several "one blood", one "human being".

That would be the problem...the TRANSLATIONS have, but that isn't what was written so one 'blood' or 'man' are conclusions of man in trying to help those reading understand which is kinda good for those just beginning, but for those seeking the deeper truths, the closer you get to the original the better the understanding 

 

29 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Now, why should that be "correct".  Adam was the first human being.  Read Gen 2:7.  Please give some rationale for why 'mankind' should or should have ENDED at the 2nd Adam.

Because you claim it was begun with Adam.  Go to Gen 1 and find 'male and female created He THEM'.   How do you get to disregard what is so clearly written as happening on the 6th day?   Doesn't Gen 2:7 begin with a 'rest'?  Doesn't God say he didn't have a man to till the soil?  The BIBLE is about Gods People and how they are found in this present creation.  The first Adam is of a SPIRITUAL bloodline, not of the natural one.  So EITHER speak to the natural or to the spiritual but don't begin with one and end with the other as GOD doesn't like it when we mix linen with wool so He wouldn't write it that way. 

 

34 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

No, because that is also very illogical.  I read the Bible for what it says.  Seems some, or many, think they can read between the lines and come up with all sorts of illogical things

At least I am not bouncing all around and claiming things that aren't written.  WHERE did Nod and Cains wife come from?  Seth wasn't born until WAY after Cain had children so 'supposing' they would have been his brothers and sisters is MANS DOCTRINE and isn't written anywhere. 

 

36 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Just more reading between the lines, where there are NO words, just lots of speculations.

Adam was the FIRST human being and brought condemnation into the world through sin, and Jesus is the SECOND Adam, who brought justification to the world.  Rom 5

I didn't write them nor did I give them their definitions.  Those would be GODS WORDS.  Take it up with Him.  AGAIN, there is a perfectly clear creation of male and female being created and told to multiply.  There is also another formed who is the beginning of the blood line and who 'woman' is taken from his curve.  They don't even resemble one another yet you insist they do.   I am not adding anything and you are, yet you say I have it all wrong.  Should I disregard GODS WORDS and take up with your explanations instead?  I think I will just stick with what is written and not add anything to it as I have been warned. 

 

43 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

What's not to understand here?  Gen 2:7 SAYS Adam was formed from the dust of the ground, and therefore everyone born also comes from that same dust.

As He said this which for some reason is just skipped over

 

45 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

No need to ponder at all.  Or specuate or guess.  Gen 1:26,27 is a specific reference to man being created in the image of the Trinity, or Godhead.

26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 

  This is the creation of the men and woman who went on to multiply upon the earth.  The trinity is found elsewhere.  

 

48 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Just speculation.  Scripture doesn't say what you say.  I follow the Bereans, per Acts 17:11.

That is exactly what it does say.  If you want to say it says Adam and Eve had kids before Seth, for the sake of some doctrine, that is up to you.  It just isn't written that way as everyone can see for themselves.  
 

 13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

The Descendants of Cain

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. 19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

Seth and Enosh

25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

 

[DeighAnn]

51 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

The title of this thread is about the assumption/speculation that there were already people on earth before Adam was created.  The Bible doesn't give us that option.

Gen 1

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Men and women on earth multiplying....


Gen 2
1  Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


7th day God resting people continue being fruitful and multiplying

4  These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5  And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6  But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7  And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


The beginning of the Bloodline of Christ - what would be the 8th day  

8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

15  And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

male and female created He THEM just ISN'T WRITTEN HERE in any way shape or form, in fact GOD is specific to KEEP a good distance between Adam and Eves creation.  Where is the be fruitful and multiply?  
 

18  And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19  And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
 

How long would it take to name EVERY LIVING CREATURE?  Again, quite the jump from 'male and female created He them'.  

 

21  And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22  And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Even MORE of a distance from 'male and female created He them'.  How many would it take to make one 'see'?  
 

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.


Probably thinking His children are sottish, or maybe just stubborn at this point, 
 

24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25  And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Who else can do that, I mean, just read it as it is written and take it as GODS TRUTH, nothing added nothing taken away for any tradition or doctrine of man?
 

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

The title of this thread is about the assumption/speculation that there were already people on earth before Adam was created.  The Bible doesn't give us that option.

1  And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2  And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 

GOD gives us conception and also will follow with a list of them and their whens.
 

9  And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? 10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. 11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; 12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. 13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.


WHO would CAIN BE TALKING ABOUT if in fact, there were ONLY ADAM and Eve and Cain on the face of the earth?   How could he even KNOW what conception was never having been around for one?  Why would he think that years and years and years later there would be born to his parent brothers and sisters who would come along and want to kill him?  And why kill him after all that time? 

What would be the simplest explanation? 



 16  And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17  And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. 19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

ALL those 'conceptions' are recorded.  We should just BELIEVE it as written and go from there.  

25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

This is so simple it would be HARD to make it say something other than what is written right here
 

1  This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2  Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

 3  And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5  And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

SO there were NO OTHER CHILDREN FROM ADAM AND EVE before Seth, and Cain had a wife and child long before he was born so for me it is safe to say there were people on the earth before Adam and Eve.  

 

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[kwikphilly]

10 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Acts 17:26 - From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.

1 Cor 15:45 - Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

1 Cor 15:47 - The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; (Gen 2:7) the second man is from heaven.

Why don't these verses end all argument?  No humans before Adam.

Amen,yes the FIRST human- pretty clear

Now even if Adam was the first of " mankind" and others were  created I really don't see how that would be of any importance- if it were then it would be Written

One of my personal pet peeves is nit picking over what isn't there- there's far more important matters at hand- like Salvation !

Nice to see you Brother

With love in Christ,Kwik