What is our Inheritance?

[AdHoc]

On 6/24/2025 at 6:36 AM, Marilyn C said:

I don`t think you read my post clearly, Ad Hoc, for you see - 

This parable clearly describes the Lord`s coming to Israel and giving authority to those servants of His who were `faithful in what was given,` (Luke 19: 17) The citizens, (Gentiles) who did not want the Lord to rule over them were slain. (Zech. 14: 12)

I do try to be faithful to my opponent's grammar.

The Lord did come to Israel but the servants were not of Israel.
The parable is not about the Lord's coming to Israel to give authority but to cause them to "repent for the kingdom"
The servants did not receive authority. They received "the Lord's goods" for building His House 
The citizens are not Gentiles. They are those to whom the Lord came - Israel
The Gentiles were never given a choice
The Gentiles are never given a choice
Israel, at Jesus' trial, chose a Gentile
Israel's city was destroyed

This is the correct grammar;
"This parable to the Believers (for our Lord did not want Israel to understand - Mat.13) is about our Lord's actions after His nation-wide rejection by Israel (the citizens who rejected their legal king). He ascended to heaven and from there, gave the gifts of the Holy Spirit to His servants (a mixture of Jews and Gentiles (Eph.2:15). From heaven the Lord poured out wrath and indignation on Israel 40 years later. On His return the Lord called the servants and caused them to give account of the use of the gifts. The diligent (10 pounds) are complimented and rewarded. The faithful (5 pounds) are rewarded but not complimented. The slothful (no pounds ) is rebuked and chastised and may not function in the age to follow."

Israel's fate is deduced from the case of Zacchaeus. Households enjoy the Lord. Other's don't (Dan.12:2)

If you meant the above - wonderful. I'm sorry I misread your sentence.

[Anne2]

On 6/21/2025 at 4:45 PM, AdHoc said:

If we examine inheritance in the Old Testament it refers almost exclusively to the Land of Canaan. The priesthood, having no inheritance in Land, inherit God Himself and a tithe of all Israel (Numbers 18, 26)

So true. Moses, Aaron, the entire  tribe of Levi had no inheritance with the twelve tribes (patriarchs) .The priests were set apart as heirs, with an inheritance.

See here.

Acts 7:2  And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,
3  And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.
4  Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.
5  And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
6  And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.
7  And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.

Genesis 15....To Abram, Isaac, and Jacob,,,,

Gen 15:13  And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14  And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15  And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16  But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
 

1. He will die... (the death we all die in Adam)  Resurrection is necessary for Abraham's faith

2. The 4th generation of his seed.... Resurrection is necessary to Isaac and Jacob, and all the heirs of the eternal inheritance..

Gen 17. To Abraham: Kings from Abraham, A father of many nations 

1 ¶  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. {perfect: or, upright, or, sincere }
2  And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
3  And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
4 ¶  As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. {many … : Heb. multitude of nations }
5  Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. {Abraham: that is, Father of a great multitude }
6  And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 ¶  And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8  And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Gen 17: Sarai...To Sarah. Seed of the woman

15And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. {Sarah: that is Princess }
16  And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. 

Which brings us to Galatians, and a sum up of the two covenants..allegories.

Ishmael is also an heir in the land promise.

18  And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
19  And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
20  And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
21  But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
 

Ge 25:12  Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham’s son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah’s handmaid, bare unto Abraham:
Ge 25:13  And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam,
14  And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa,
15  Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah: {Hadar: or, Hadad }
16  These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations.
17  And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the ghost and died; and was gathered unto his people.
18  And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria: and he died in the presence of all his brethren.

 

[AdHoc]

5 hours ago, Anne2 said:

So true. Moses, Aaron, the entire  tribe of Levi had no inheritance with the twelve tribes (patriarchs) .The priests were set apart as heirs, with an inheritance.

See here.

Acts 7:2  And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,
3  And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.
4  Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.
5  And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
6  And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.
7  And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.

Genesis 15....To Abram, Isaac, and Jacob,,,,

Gen 15:13  And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14  And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15  And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16  But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
 

1. He will die... (the death we all die in Adam)  Resurrection is necessary for Abraham's faith

2. The 4th generation of his seed.... Resurrection is necessary to Isaac and Jacob, and all the heirs of the eternal inheritance..

Gen 17. To Abraham: Kings from Abraham, A father of many nations 

1 ¶  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. {perfect: or, upright, or, sincere }
2  And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
3  And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
4 ¶  As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. {many … : Heb. multitude of nations }
5  Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. {Abraham: that is, Father of a great multitude }
6  And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 ¶  And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8  And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Gen 17: Sarai...To Sarah. Seed of the woman

15And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. {Sarah: that is Princess }
16  And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. 

Which brings us to Galatians, and a sum up of the two covenants..allegories.

Ishmael is also an heir in the land promise.

18  And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
19  And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
20  And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
21  But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
 

Ge 25:12  Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham’s son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah’s handmaid, bare unto Abraham:
Ge 25:13  And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam,
14  And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa,
15  Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah: {Hadar: or, Hadad }
16  These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations.
17  And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the ghost and died; and was gathered unto his people.
18  And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria: and he died in the presence of all his brethren.

 

Yes. Ishmael is firstborn to Abraham and has a claim. But Ishmael's conception is by efforts of the flesh. Sarah is barren, so God must intervene. Isaac is according to the Spirit then. Likewise, Israel are seed of Abraham but according to the flesh (Rom.9:3-4). They are then earthly and inherit Canaan. But Mary is a virgin. God must intervene. So Jesus is thus Seed according to the Spirit (Mat.1:20, Lk.1:35). Inheritance from man is man's birthright, but the one who inherits also dies. This is pictured in Egypt. Their firstborn all die. The world - pictured by Egypt - is forfeit to the seed of Abraham who "live".

Since the Seed of Abraham are promised the Land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession", they must be resurrected first - all of them. Thus Ezekiel 37 shows the dry sticks as "the WHOLE House of Israel" (v.11) - that is, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, 4 generations in Egypt, those that fell in the wilderness, those that are buried in Canaan, those that are buried in foreign Lands and all those still scattered to the four winds when Jesus returns (Matt.24:31).

But Galatians goes further. When the New Man is created (2nd Cor.5:17) God must still hold to His contract. Only the seed of Abraham is promised Canaan, and only the Seed (singular) is promised the earth. Since the New Man has members from BOTH the Nations and the Nation of Israel (Eph.2:15) the trick is how does God make those from the Nations seed of Abraham WITHOUT putting them under Law? God is Master. He solves it in a THREEFOLD manner:
1. By The Law of KINDS in Genesis 1:11-12. Jesus brings forth the New Man as a grain of Wheat in John 12:24. All who are IN CHRIST are thus seed of Abraham seeing as Jesus was when He died.
2. By ADOPTION. By God adopting us all legal barriers are removed (Rom.8:15, Gal.4:5)
3. By the COMMONWEALTH of Israel. In a Commonwealth the member States profit from the TRADE agreements but never give up their own sovereignty or citizenship.

Thus, God does not have to make a new covenant with Abraham, but He must make a New Covenant with Israel because the breaking of the Law led to losing Canaan. The Covenant with Abraham is one of promise. It can only be lost by refusing circumcision. The Covenant with Israel at Horeb addressed the flesh (Rom.8:3). So the New Covenant made with Israel is written inwardly and Israel must have shed the flesh by resurrection and have a new spirit (Jer.31:31-33).

Marvelous! 

[Alive]

I am reminded that Isaac means laughter or one who laughs. He is the son of promise and a type of Christ as AdHoc suggests.

Indeed a cause for joyous laughter.

[Anne2]

17 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Yes. Ishmael is firstborn to Abraham and has a claim. But Ishmael's conception is by efforts of the flesh

Yes, a temporal, this world covenant. This is not bad, but good. 

 

17 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Sarah is barren, so God must intervene. Isaac is according to the Spirit then.

Agree, by promise of God. 

The terrestrial covenant, made glorious. But an excelling glory can seem like the lesser glory has no glory in comparison

2Co 3:10  For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

Edited June 26 by Anne2

[farouk]

Reminds me of Ephesians 1.12-14:

"...we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

¹³ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

¹⁴ Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

[AdHoc]

On 6/26/2025 at 11:23 PM, farouk said:

Reminds me of Ephesians 1.12-14:

"...we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

¹³ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

¹⁴ Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

If I'm not mistaken, this about our resurrection. Verse 10 is the context - what happens in the "economy of the fullness of times" (lit. Gk.). The Greek is "oikonomia" which means "house hold management". Ephesians tells what glory awaits the Body - the Church. It is to be co-heirs with Christ. But as we see from the Lord's words to Abraham in Genesis 15, Abraham would only inherit the Land in resurrection. This is confirmed by Acts 7:5. Man is made of three parts and Christ salvation REDEEMS all three parts - but at different ties. The human spirit receives eternal life at rebirth. The human soul is transformed over a long period (2nd Cor.3:18). The body is redeemed when Christ comes back to earth (1st Cor.15:22-23).

Ephesians states the glorious truth that the Holy Spirit is given to our spirit as a "guarantee" (the meaning of "earnest") that our bodies have been "purchased" but Christ will only claim them at a later date. Few Christian really believe in resurrection of the body. They believe that at death the physical body rots to the elements and we receive a spirit-body for going to heaven. An "earnest" comes from the ancient way of buying land. The seller gave the buyer a handful of sand from the plot as a "guarantee that he would sell the plot. Man needs his body for ruling the earth with Christ (1st Cor.15:50-54). The earth is the inheritance and the guarantee is the Holy Spirit in our human spirit at rebirth.

[AdHoc]

On 6/26/2025 at 3:35 PM, Alive said:

I am reminded that Isaac means laughter or one who laughs. He is the son of promise and a type of Christ as AdHoc suggests.

Indeed a cause for joyous laughter.

You chose the example well. Isaac is the picture of us inheriting. Abraham addresses our calling out of the world, and Jacob addresses the somewhat painful process of our souls being transformed from Jacob ( meaning "Supplanter") to Israel (Victor of God and Prince). Notice, Isaac must just abide. He even has to do nothing to get his bride. All inheritance is done by God. He could only fail if he left the Land. 

[Alive]

27 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

You chose the example well. Isaac is the picture of us inheriting. Abraham addresses our calling out of the world, and Jacob addresses the somewhat painful process of our souls being transformed from Jacob ( meaning "Supplanter") to Israel (Victor of God and Prince). Notice, Isaac must just abide. He even has to do nothing to get his bride. All inheritance is done by God. He could only fail if he left the Land. 

Faith…Grace….Change

This is the lesson of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for us and in us.

[AdHoc]

On 6/30/2025 at 1:34 AM, Alive said:

Faith…Grace….Change

This is the lesson of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for us and in us.

Amen! Called out of the demon-worshiping world, he went by Faith (Heb.11:8). Made Heirs with Christ (Gal.3:28-29) and transformed into Christ's image (Rom.8:28-29).

Genesis has 50 chapters. 25 of those deal with Jacob. The book ends with Jacob blessing Pharaoh. The greater blesses the lesser (Heb.7:7). It took all his life to become a prince of God. His bones rest in the Land of his inheritance. He will sit a ta table in the Kingdom. From "Supplanter" to Prince - but he says; "my days have been few and evil". Truly, the end of our pilgrimage is glorious.