Before Marriage

[kittylover0991]

I know I have put this in a smaller forum and have asked a couple people in the Worthy Chat, but I have seen too many small discussions of people asking for help being taken over by people arguing this very topic. Yes, I am opening a can of worms I know, but know it is a question that is asked by many and there are still some things about this that I question.

Simply, what "ok"(i use that term lightly) before marraige? What is not "ok"? What is right and what is wrong, I guess would be a better one.

I also know that the bible says "flee fornication".. the next question is, what does term "fornication" really entail? Is it really just that three letter word that I can't find it in me post on these boards for all to see or is there more to it? What about kissing? Are there different levels to that? What about holding hands or hugging.. is that wrong too?

Does anyone have a bible verse?

Is there something to be weary of in the though life? If so, how does one deal with that?

Please dont make this into a discussion about when one is truly married. If someone wants, another thread can be started on that too. Not to belabore the point, does anybody know?

[Guest LadyC]

if it ignites a passion that is hard to resist going further with, if you are having difficulty with lustful thoughts taking control, then it's too far.

essentially, you need to refrain from anything that you wouldn't be willing to do in front of Jesus Himself... because everything you do IS in front of Jesus. He's always in that room watching every move you make. if you could see Him standing there, how far would you go? my guess is probably not much further than holding hands.

[cymba22]

Rule of thumb...if you cannot bring yourself to do whatever in front of the pastor and congrigation at church...its shouldn't be done in private either...

[Leonard]

Cymba: Good rule of thumb. HOWEVER. Perhaps those unmarried persons should NEVER, EVER be 'in private' where temptations to do such things arise........

By the way, the Greek word for 'fornication' is 'pornea' which simply means 'sexual impurity.' ANY sexual impurity.

[cymba22]

Cymba: Good rule of thumb. HOWEVER. Perhaps those unmarried persons should NEVER, EVER be 'in private' where temptations to do such things arise........

By the way, the Greek word for 'fornication' is 'pornea' which simply means 'sexual impurity.' ANY sexual impurity.

True.....

[Bolts]

Simply, what "ok"(i use that term lightly) before marraige? What is not "ok"? What is right and what is wrong, I guess would be a better one.

Sadly, the world today is so bombarded with seduction and vanity that it is necessary for christians to stand up in their own homes against these soughts of things. The accountability of parents on this issue cannot be taken lightly. I often tell my children that I am accountable to God for the way that they are raised - until they reach the age of understanding and can choose between right and wrong for themselves. It can be difficult at times, but we have to press in.

Here are some of the things that I consider OK:

1. children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right. Honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment with a promise that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth. Ephesians 6:1 - 3.

2. Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

3. Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality or of any kind of impurity or of greed, because these are improper for Gods holy people. Ephesians 5: 1 - 3

I also know that the bible says "flee fornication".. the next question is, what does term "fornication" really entail?

As Leonard wrote: 'By the way, the Greek word for 'fornication' is 'pornea' which simply means 'sexual impurity.' ANY sexual impurity'.

Is it really just that three letter word that I can't find it in me post on these boards for all to see or is there more to it? What about kissing? Are there different levels to that? What about holding hands or hugging.. is that wrong too?

Romans 16:16 tells us to greet each other with a holy kiss. A holy kiss is pure and without motive or desire. Hebrew 13:1 exhorts us to keep on loving each other as brothers. We are in the family of God. We must realise that God comes first. That he should be the number one priority in our lives. If we do this, than everything else will be added to us.

I hope this helps.

[peaches]

u took the words right out of my mouth bolts

[Work in Progress]

Whenever you are together, consider our Lord to be there with you. That'll curb your appetites.

[nebula]

And if it's too hard to visualize the Lord in that way . . . consider your parents being there!

As I understand it, fornicaton is sexual relations between 2 unmarried people. If at least one is married to someone else, then it's adultary.

But, to go deeper, if a married person even kisses someone else (not spouse), that is too considered "cheating," is it not? (The same can be said for boyfriend/girlfriend.)

Some Christians believe that to maintain holiness, they will not kiss until the wedding ceremony. I'm not sure I'd go that far myself or not. But I have decided to try to avoid kissing until engagement at least. For until the promise of marriage, I could be kissing some other woman's husband! (future tense, you know?) After engagement, though, the pledge is mine. But even then I know there neds to be guards against falling into temptation. Passions do flare easy! So, the "sucking face" routine is a bad thing in that regard, if you catch my meaning!

Hope that helps!

And BTW - hands need to "keep to themselves" as well to avoid temptation.

[RGR]

So, the "sucking face" routine is a bad thing in that regard, if you catch my meaning!