The Toronto Blessing, and Benny Hinn, etc

[Leonard]

OH NOOOOOOOO! Someone said the B. H. word!!!!!

Around here that's always a sure invite for the rabidness of those who can forgive ANYTHING except success!

Wow, accusatory AND a non-sequitor...how truly disgusting! Like looking at a remarkably well-formed chub of phlegm...you're impressed and repelled at the same time!

Bravo!

Thank you. I am gratified you noticed how much I am able to pack into one short statement! "Like looking at a remarkably well-formed chub of phlegm...you're impressed and repelled at the same time!" That is GOOD WRITING!

[followerofjesus]

The sources of BH's corruption are endless. At some point we have to judge the fruits.

[LadyRaven]

Wow. Where to begin. You are "less suspicious of Benny Hinn"? As bad as the Toronto Blessing scam was, I am sort of dumbfounded that anyone could be less suspicious of Hinn than anyone other than the devil himself. The biggest problem with Hinn is that his entire ministry has exactly nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with greed, excess, hucksterism and bad theater. TBN is loaded with devils but Hinn must rank near the very top of the list.

sw

I guess somewhere in the Bible, God appointed you as judge and jury. I must have missed that passage. I have a close family member who was healed in a Hinn crusade. Medically documented. She was in wheel chair and could not walk. Could not straighten up because of degenerative bone condition. She was healed in one of Hinn's Atlanta Crusades. She got out of the wheel chair and was instantly healed. She is walking, and has no signs of the disease. Someone must have forgotten to tell God that He can not work through Benny Hinn because you do not approve of Hinn.

[Floatingaxe]

What is Word of Faith and why is it heretical? I always just considered it a nasty label some Christians use for other Christians. It is never used in a kind way, that's for sure! Maybe we should start another thread?

[LadyRaven]

What is Word of Faith and why is it heretical? I always just considered it a nasty label some Christians use for other Christians. It is never used in a kind way, that's for sure! Maybe we should start another thread?

My goodness, I'm suprised you don't know, you're so well spoken in all of our disagreements.... anyway, I can start a new thread cause i think Word of Faith and the Toronto Blessing were connected (ppl who believe one will be more likely to believe the other) but I don't think they are the same thing.

BTW, I don't think I ever said how much I like your nic.

[LadyRaven]

What is Word of Faith and why is it heretical? I always just considered it a nasty label some Christians use for other Christians. It is never used in a kind way, that's for sure! Maybe we should start another thread?

My goodness, I'm suprised you don't know, you're so well spoken in all of our disagreements.... anyway, I can start a new thread cause i think Word of Faith and the Toronto Blessing were connected (ppl who believe one will be more likely to believe the other) but I don't think they are the same thing.

BTW, I don't think I ever said how much I like your nic.

Oh and that first paragraph was not meant to be...a negative comment...

[Floatingaxe]

What is Word of Faith and why is it heretical? I always just considered it a nasty label some Christians use for other Christians. It is never used in a kind way, that's for sure! Maybe we should start another thread?

My goodness, I'm suprised you don't know, you're so well spoken in all of our disagreements.... anyway, I can start a new thread cause i think Word of Faith and the Toronto Blessing were connected (ppl who believe one will be more likely to believe the other) but I don't think they are the same thing.

BTW, I don't think I ever said how much I like your nic.

Oh and that first paragraph was not meant to be...a negative comment...

No problem!

[RGR]

These threads like these generally end up in a heated debate and have to be closed. I looked up a few of the old threads and figured I'd post a link to those:

Benny Hinn thread

Another Benny thread

Word of Faith thread

Another WOF topic

Yet another WOF thread

Yet another Benny Hinn topic

[RustyAngeL]

You should be more then just a little suspicious of Benny Hin. I can promise you that there has to be a lot of money involved for him our he wouldn't be there. I live in Southern California and this man has a 6 million dollar house on the beach, a private jet a fleet of Roll Royces and a mess of body guards. I have a friend who is wonderful christian,that drove truck for Mr. Hinn and Randy quit because he couldn't stand to see what was going on at his crusades. His suits cost more then most of us have in our checking accounts and I can promise you if his ministry didn't turn a dime he would close it down in a New Your minute. There are other ones like him out there like Mike Murdock, Chalres Tilton, and Creflo Dollar, Fredrick Price, W.V Grant, but none that make the kind of money he does all in the name of faith. I puts a bad name of all the good ones like Billy Graham. We can also add Oral Roberts to the list. I remember hearing him preach about pators that were divorced and that they should not be allowed in a pulpit because if they can't keep their families together how can they keep a church together. However when his son Richard left his wife, had a affair and then married this woman he was allowed to continue to preach. We need to be able to seperate the good ones who are really doing God's work. If we are in tune spiritually we should be able to do that.

[Gerioke]

John Wimber, I believe his name is, has been the head pastor there for many years. The last time I saw their program on vision TV, it was still John Wimber calling the shots. I used to be a member of one of their "partners in harvest" satellite churchs. John wimber would come to North Bay quite often with his family and help the pastor with these new "spiritual experiences". It started off as a vineyard church but they split when the airport thing happened. We left that church because of all the wierdness that started happening. (quack like a duck, bark like a dog, witch hunting etc.). It became a very dark church. When my son was born we took him there to have him dedicated. As soon as we tried to hand him over to the pastor, he began wailing uncontrolabley. We took him out of the church and he calmed right down. This was one sign that this church was no longer for us. Also the pastors wife seemed to be the one calling the shots, which I thought was wierd.

I could go on but I think I won't.

Well, whatever your opinion of Wimber, he's been dead for years! Died quite young......

Beg your pardon.

It was actually John Arnott.