Imagine

[dgolvach]

Julian Lennon said that his dad talked a big game but that it didn't mean much when you throw your wife and child away to go chase YOKO. He also said that Paul was more of a father figure to him than John. Again...the Beatles made the best music I have ever heard but that dosen't make them right about everything. John was so full of it. Just ask his son or his former songwritting partner. As far as where he went when he got shot, heaven I hope. No one knows for sure except God so I really can't say for sure and nor can anyone else.

Dan

[dgolvach]

Lennon slapped his first wife, Cynthia

[ayin jade]

A restful sleep? Have you ever read quotes of the last words of famous Christians as opposed to famous non believers? It's quite alarming and disturbing. I can find some if you would be interested.

Im interested. I have some experience with this, but never heard any quotes from those who have died, and their last words.

[Guest yod]

There is no way to know for sure...but...

Did anyone else notice that the usual cynicism, sarcasm, and angst was missing from Lennon's last album???

I did...and wondered.

Then I read the interview in Rolling Stone magazine that came out the same month he was murdered. I was an atheist in a rock band at the time so some of his comments struck me as odd. Especially the comment about how Elvis was probably going to hell while saying something about how his life had drastically changed and he was not going to be in hell.

Remember the song "I'm just sitting here watching the wheel go round and round"? and how he just "had to let it go"?

Then a few years later I heard an interview from a guy in NYC who claimed to be one of John's best friends during that 5 years when John had dropped out of the scene. This was just an ordinary kind of guy who said that John used to watch the 700 club at home a lot....and one day knelt down to pray with Pat Robertson.

I'd like to think that I will get to jam with King David, Elvis AND John Lennon someday. Who knows?

[eric]

King David was no rocker, and besides I have it on good authority that guitars and bagpipes are going to be banned in heaven........except Hank, for Ronald of course.

[artsylady]

Im interested. I have some experience with this, but never heard any quotes from those who have died, and their last words.

Thank you Ayin Jade. John Lennon isn't responding to my posts at all but I'm glad someone is.

Starting with Athiests.

Voltaire "I am abandoned by God and man; I shall go to hell! I will give you half of what I am worth, if you will give me six months life."

Honore Mirabeau: "My sufferings are intolerable: I have in me a hundred years of life, but not a moment's courage. Give me more laudanum, that I may not think of eternity! 0 Christ, 0 Jesus Christ!"

Mazarin, French cardinal and advisor to kings: "0 my poor soul! What will become of thee? Wither wilt thou go?"

Severus, Roman emperor who caused the death of thousands of Christians: "I have been everything; and everything is nothing!"

Thomas Hobbes, the political philosopher and sceptic who corrupted some of England's great men: "If I had the whole world, I would give anything to live one day. I shall be glad to find a hole to creep out of the world at. I am about to take a fearful leap in the dark!"

Caesar Borgia: "I have provided, in the course of my life, for everything except death; and now, alas! I am to die, although entirely unprepared!"

Sir Thomas Scott, chancellor of England: "Until this moment, I thought there was neither God nor hell; now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty!"

Edward Gibbon, author of "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire": "All is dark and doubtfull"

Sir Francis Newport, the head of an English infidel club to those gathered around his deathbed: "You need not tell me there is no God for I know there is one, and that I am in His presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell!"

M.F. Rich: "Terrible horrors hang over my soul! I have given my immortality for gold; and its weight sinks me into a hopeless, helpless Hell!"

Thomas Paine, the leading atheistic writer in American colonies: "I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. 0 Lord, help me! Christ, help me! . . No, don't leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of Hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one.".

Napoleon Bonaparte, the French emperor who brought death to millions to satisfy his selfish plans: "I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!

[artsylady]

Dying words of Christians.

On her deathbed, Queen Victoria told those around her that she loved God and was His little child, so she was ready to die. Then she called for the hymn to be sung: "Rock of Ages, cleft for me. "Let me hide myself in Thee."

For decades she had ruled the British Empire, but when death approached, all she had was God. And that is the consistent pattern with those who have made peace with their Creator and love and serve Him. Here is how Christians die, as revealed in their dying words:

Brownlow North (1875), a profligate nobleman who became a preacher: " 'The blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from all sin,' That is the verse on which I am now dying. One wants no more."

John Nelson Darby (1882): "Beyond the grave comes heaven. Well, it will be strange to find my

[sweetycakes]

Thanks, Artsylady, for the last two posts.

Very revealing and very inspiring.

[RebekahDavid]

wonderful post lArtsladys thank-you! (sure hope John reads them would be interesting to see what he thinks about them.)

John

"You read 'The Power Of Myth'/Joseph Campbell, and I'll read 'Tortured For Christ'. Deal?"

Deal would i find that in a non Christian book store (joking about the store not the deal)

[John Lennon]

wonderful post lArtsladys thank-you! (sure hope John reads them would be interesting to see what he thinks about them.)

John

"You read 'The Power Of Myth'/Joseph Campbell, and I'll read 'Tortured For Christ'. Deal?"

Deal would i find that in a non Christian book store (joking about the store not the deal)

Yup! should have it in a day or two in the mail-I'm going on vacation from my work-a-holic job-2 week camping trip/canoeing/campfires/my guitar and I'm bringing the book.Out in nature's where I belong, but I will miss the Worthy boards! Will have lots of chat when I get back. Peace to you-Rebekah David. JL.