So What's Wrong With 'Leave It To Beaver' Type Days/Famili

[Laura]

UM Vexillum... Didn't know that made a difference!

Sorry, but I hear just about anyone speaking!

and I surely am not or ever been this so called, politically correct.

[Candi770]

So am I gathering that a lot of people think the ideal is that women should stay home?

I would say that would be a great thing for my familly, can't say for others.

[Floatingaxe]

yep! A virtuous woman is industrious!

[Gerioke]

Women in the house and the men out at work?

I believe this to be a biblical notion. It beats having strangers raise our kids while we pursue the american dream.

Really?

The Bible doesn't say that at all.

In proverbs we see that a "virtuous woman" is actually described to be more like a business person than a housewife. Yes there are many characteristics of the "housewife" that are described in Proverbs, but at the same time, there are characteristics of a business person who buys and sells land and merchandise, and works with her hands, etc.

In the story of Ruth, you find that Boaz, who is obviously a righteous man, had both male and female laborers working in his fields.

Ruth had no family to care for.

[Scarletprayers]

Women in the house and the men out at work?

I believe this to be a biblical notion. It beats having strangers raise our kids while we pursue the american dream.

Really?

The Bible doesn't say that at all.

In proverbs we see that a "virtuous woman" is actually described to be more like a business person than a housewife. Yes there are many characteristics of the "housewife" that are described in Proverbs, but at the same time, there are characteristics of a business person who buys and sells land and merchandise, and works with her hands, etc.

In the story of Ruth, you find that Boaz, who is obviously a righteous man, had both male and female laborers working in his fields.

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Oh yes, Leave it to Beaver, the Brady Bunch, the Andy Griffith show, etc, are all lies.

There has never been a time when life was even remotely so simple or honest since the fall of man.

Nostalgia? What are you nostalgic about? Just a few decades ago nothing we have today existed. There was no internet, no computers, no wonder cures for disease, taxes were done by hand, etc. What is there about Leave it to Beaver that is desireable anyway? Oh yes, the "perfect" people: well, get a hint, there have NEVER been perfect people, other than Jesus, and there never will be till the trump sounds. I for one cannot stand to watch those shows because they are so fake that it is simply ridiculous and stupid. Its not funny in any comical sense, its simply so unrealistic and stupid that it has no bearing on real life. Even in high fantasy people have flaws and neighborhoods aren't perfect, but these cookie-cutter 50's shows were just fake.

You know allot about and age that happened 20 to 30 years before you were even born. No computers, internet, and taxes done by hand.......... ohhh no. Was it as perfect as those shows made it out to be, in NO way, shape, form, or fashion, but it was a more innocent time, for most adults and definitely for children.

[Floatingaxe]

Yes, I remember the fifties very well. It was a lovely time! (sniff)

[Gerioke]

Ruth had no family to care for.

I wasn't even referring to Ruth, I was referring to the OTHER women, who were hired laborers for Boaz...

Yes but perhaps it was only single women working in the fields. Single women would have a hard time taking care of a home if they don't have families.

[LadyRaven]

Ruth had no family to care for.

I wasn't even referring to Ruth, I was referring to the OTHER women, who were hired laborers for Boaz...

Yes but perhaps it was only single women working in the fields. Single women would have a hard time taking care of a home if they don't have families.

I know that it would be alot less work to keep a home without a family. The only mess I cleaned up would be my own.

[Guest LadyC]

i do believe the women working the fields were endentured SERVANTS. or bond servants. women did not have careers in those days. there were no two-income families. single women who had nobody to care for them either gleaned the fields or prostituted themselves out to survive.

the virtuous woman of proverbs describes a woman who manages the affairs of her HOUSEHOLD. she was not a business woman, aside from the fact that running a household IS a full time job without pay.

not everyone is able to be a stay-at-home-wife/mother. but it IS the biblical model, and if a family is able to survive (even if it means lowering their standard of living) without the wife working, she should do so, particularly when their are children in the home. trust me, there's plenty to keep a godly wife busy without earning a paycheck.

however i'm not disparaging women who have to work to keep a roof over their heads, and food on the table. i was a single working mom for the majority of my children's formative years. i had no choice. lots of women have no choice. but no way would i consider, now that i'm married, bringing home a paycheck just so i could drive a nicer car, or just so i could live in a nicer home. God gave me a job... the job of taking care of my family... and sometimes that's almost more than i can handle.

[georgesbluegirl]

so women shouldn't be able to choose to have a career?

as long as a husband and wife agree to be flexible in considering each other's needs in managing a family, it can work beautifully. sometimes the husband will be the one cooking dinner and taking the kids to play practice, and sometimes the wife might have to work late. as long as neither neglects to consider the home, there's no reason to stifle your independent desire for a career.

works well for my family anyway. my parents both have incredibly demanding jobs, but growing up, it was rare that we did not sit down and eat dinner together - we shared meals and time together more than most families i know.