Does God love Homosexuals Too?

[brothaman]

Yes, I typed this earlier but decided to post it as a topic so that I could get a legitimate response.

If God smote Sodom and Gomorrah (plz don't kill me on spelling, I do not have my bible on hand) for the homosexual acts committed there, does he love the gays? Or were they just so far gone that God knew that they would only pervert the world? What?

Yes. We all sin and he still loves us, but if you are not saved before you die, (this is for all) then you will not be excepted in Heaven.

God Bless, Brothaman

[JCISGD]

Oh, I cannot do this anymore. Going around in circles like this.

There is no rational argument to show homosexuality is a choice. None. Quite frankly some of these arguments are becoming increasingly disjointed. I've heard of cases where Christians have to, point blank, ignore the obvious but this is just absurd.

If you weren't interested in discussing this then you could have just stated that at the outset and saved me all this time wasted.

Yet, you really can't provide a reason as to why our position is wrong. You can whine and blither about "it's not rational," but you have yet to provide anything that possesses any intellectual, meaningful or substnantive value that a thinking person could appreciate. You have not provided anything "obvious" other than the obvious fact that all you are capable of are emotional, baseless rants.

There is nothing "disjointed" in what we have said. We have been perfectly clear and consistent in our presentation of why we believe as we do.

All you do is whine that we don't see this as you see it.

Brother Shilo, i am publically rebuking you as this is a public forum and you have posted so, but please take it in the spirit of love intended and not a personal attack.

Brother your comments above re- whinning, blitherring and all you are capable of are emotional baseless rants, is not the response of a Christian to another let alone one whom Christ died for. I did enjoy you post on the grace of God but you are not exhibiting that here.

Peace to you and God bless.

In Christ, Arthur.

[Dog House Bill]

Hey -

I apologize for not having the time to read through this thread to get the gist of where it is going, but this seemed the right place to post this.

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After 29 years as a gay activist, former lesbian magazine publisher Charlene Cothran stunned the homosexual community when she announced she had become a Christian.

She has renounced her homosexuality, and changed the format of her magazine to spread the Gospel to the gay community.

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"When the Lord saved me, I knew everything would change," she said. "All of the ads, the editorials, the mission of the magazine had changed. We're going to be calling people out of homosexuality."

Most of the response from the gay and lesbian community has been fierce and negative. But she says she knows that many of them are just as conflicted as she was.

Cothran said, "In order to fill up this empty space, they pretend to put on this wonderful face, 'how gay and happy I am,' when in fact -- there's a lot of loneliness in the gay community that's not talked about, and it's real."

But there has been positive feedback as well. Cothran says she gets lots of e-mails from people who say they struggle with homosexuality and want out.

Read the entire transcript here .

This is so great to hear!! would you happen to know the name of the publication? our eldest is in this same struggle and it may be helpful. the transcript link does not work. Als, so much for being tolerant. The gays are the most IN-tolerant groups ever! But yes, Jesus still loves them, and Jesus still died for them. God has shown emotion when Jesus said:

Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Joh 3:19 "This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

Joh 3:20 "For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

Joh 3:21 "But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God."

Looks as if God DOES show emotions towards us sinful creatures!

Edited April 3, 2009 by Dog House Bill

[Dog House Bill]

[Dog House Bill]

I have a question, it relates to this if you don't see how you will after I get some answers.

Do you hate Adolf Hitler?

No, because he's dead.

No, because even though his actions were despicable, we need to separate the actions of people from their behavior.

No, because Jesus said to love our enemies.

No, because my personal opinion is that he's probably in hell right now, and I can only feel compassion for those who are.

Amen and Amen!

[Dog House Bill]

God hates sin, and He has determined to destroy all sin. God loves the world, but He calls us all to come out and be seperate unto him, and not to tough the unclean thing. Whatever sin we justify rather than repent of is certain to bring us death.

No active homosexual will be in heaven, but neither will any active lier, thief, or adulterer.

we are saved by what?

oh, yea, GRACE.

what do you think that is, do you suppose?

may I remind you of the following:

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?

Rom 6:2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?

Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?

Rom 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.

Though we have grace, we are not to abuse it as the Gay agenda says they can.

[Dog House Bill]

as controversial as it is surely the act of homosexuality is not a sin?

i have many homosexual friends who are just as confused about the idea of heterosexuality as i am of their outlook on life, it is something that is inherent to them. everyone i know who is genuinely gay and not just vying for attention has said that they were born that way and have known that as long as they have known love or understood sex. the way i see it God gave us sex to show our love and compassion for the one person in the world that we are meant to be with and if homosexuality on any level is done to express their pure and honest love for someone that God created then this is surely not a sin? is it right to deny 2 people love for each other if they are pure in their intentions? would you condemn someone to a life of lies and missery rather than let them pursue their own life? it has been proved that homosexuality occurs in animals too, therefore if it is a sin to do this, then can animals have free thought and choose to sin? if so does that not lead to the idea that all living things are animals including humans to some degree? the bible would disagree. it is clear to me that it is something that although we cannot understand and is in the minority it is not necessarily wrong, only different.

Friend,

God created man in His image. To say that they were "Born That way" is a lie of satan. Why? Because God is NOT gay!! To make such a claim as being born that way is abhorrent to God and His Lordship and of His creative deity. Please re-read the posts in this thread and you shall see what I am referring to. Even the counter points should be re-read as they provide the basis of the reality of the responses of God word, by those that truly love God and His word.

[Dog House Bill]

We'll if your asking does God love a Sinful lifestyle, Then the answer is no

I have forgotten the answer to this question, but does God view sin on different levels, ie., one sin is worse than the other, and therefore punishment is more severe. Somehow I think the answer is no.

The answer is "No!" In the Eyes of God, ALL sin is to be punished with the same extreme, the lake of fire. As all sin is an abomination in Gods eye, and now there is no excuse because of the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus. Man has put the levels of severity in our laws as a way to punish the criminals, but that is NOT what God has in store for those that Cuss(swear words) all the way up to the Murderer, both have the lake of fire waiting for them, UNLESS they have Jesus to be their advocate, and only if one has received Jesus as their Savior and Lord.

[OneLight]

If nobody answers your reply, it is because this thread was active in 2007, two years ago, and again in the fall of 2008, about 6 months ago. Just thought you should know ...

[Dog House Bill]

as controversial as it is surely the act of homosexuality is not a sin?

i have many homosexual friends who are just as confused about the idea of heterosexuality as i am of their outlook on life, it is something that is inherent to them. everyone i know who is genuinely gay and not just vying for attention has said that they were born that way and have known that as long as they have known love or understood sex. the way i see it God gave us sex to show our love and compassion for the one person in the world that we are meant to be with and if homosexuality on any level is done to express their pure and honest love for someone that God created then this is surely not a sin? is it right to deny 2 people love for each other if they are pure in their intentions? would you condemn someone to a life of lies and missery rather than let them pursue their own life? it has been proved that homosexuality occurs in animals too, therefore if it is a sin to do this, then can animals have free thought and choose to sin? if so does that not lead to the idea that all living things are animals including humans to some degree? the bible would disagree. it is clear to me that it is something that although we cannot understand and is in the minority it is not necessarily wrong, only different.

I've been through this thought process myself. I have been tempted since I was young with homosexual attraction, and it is a vice that clamps your mind. Let me share my thoughts on it.

1 God decides what is a sin. God said it is a sin in the bible, therefore it is a sin.

2 Animals were not created in the image of God, and are not accountable for their 'sins' (if indeed they do sin).

3 God designed sexual expression to occur between a man and a woman, and it is analogous to the love between Jesus and the Church (the bride and the bridegroom). To allow homosexuality is to blur this.

4 We dont really need to understand homosexuality, other than to know that it is sinful, it is a stronghold, Jesus died to cover this sin, and it IS possible to change.

Paul obviously agreed that God loves gays, because Jesus died to cover the sin. This is evidenced by the ex-gay christians in the Corinthian Church in 1 Cor 6.

So in short, yes, God loves gays. God loved them so much that He sent Jesus to die for them to forgive their sins.

The bible also says that God disciplines those He loves. He is lovingly guiding me out of this.

We must repent, turn from our sin, and turn to our maker. God Himself grants us the strength to repent and sanctifies us as we are changed to more reflect Him.To Him belongs all praise forever!

Amen Sister! Spoken like a true mother to be! LOL