NEW Bill of Rights

[Burning_Ember]

It affects all believers spiritually. Just as all violations of God's Holy law should.

Gay marriage is allowed in Canada. You do not live there. Random gay couple Jay and James gets married. Only in explaining this hypothetical situation will you ever know about these fictitious persons. In reality, you never contact, meet, or even know of these specific people.

Same sort of situation with Muslims praying to Allah in Canada. You will never meet or know them.

How can it possibly affect you?

Also, would AIDS have spread as far and as quickly as it has if the homosexual element was not a factor?

Actually no, and stating something like that is racist. While Gay Males have the highest rate of AIDs, Lesbians have the lowest. It balances out.

It would be like if I asked you "Also, would AIDS have spread as far and as quickly as it has if the African-American element was not a factor?" Because another one of the highest rates for AIDs is Blacks.

But of course, its racist to blame gays for AIDs in the same way it is to blame blacks.

Would all sexually transmitted diseases be as widespread if Biblical morality had not been ignored?

This is irrelevant as to gay marriage affecting you. Unless you were attempting to justify gay marriage by getting them to marry, thus reducing the number of partners one has.

Even so, it is far more effective to use condoms then try teach people not to have sex. Studies have shown that people who are taught abstinence only sex ed have sex at the same median age as everyone else. You'll note in countries where condoms are not widely available and proper sex education is not given, the STD rate is far higher.

Just like when someone drinks, drives, has an accident and kills someone, homosexuality does have physical affects on society as well.

Who has been killed directly because of homosexuality? The key answer here is "directly". As in, because they were attracted to the same sex, they died.

[ted]

I've never personally been directly affected by someone having sexual contact with an animal, but the act remains a sin nonetheless. That's the point here, not whether some of these sins directly affect some of us or not.

t.

[OneLight]

Man, has this gone out of the ball park! It started as New Bill Of Rights and has degraded to talking about sexual contact with animals ...

[KeilanS]

Actually no, and stating something like that is racist. While Gay Males have the highest rate of AIDs, Lesbians have the lowest. It balances out.

It would be like if I asked you "Also, would AIDS have spread as far and as quickly as it has if the African-American element was not a factor?" Because another one of the highest rates for AIDs is Blacks.

So we should pretend that their aren't boatloads of homosexuals dying from AIDS just to be politically correct? I think not. While it is true that Lesbians have the lowest rate of AIDS, it is no lower than that of couples who did not have premarital sex and do not have extramarital sex. Male homosexuals on the other hand have much more trouble with AIDS (and other sexually transmitted diseases) than any other group. Personally I think an average life expectancy drop of 20 years constitutes a major problem with the behaviour. And out of respect for homosexuals as much as anything else, we shouldn't just keep quiet about it because of political correctness. That's like walking up to someone and saying "You're killing yourself, but I'm not supposed to tell you about it because society has decided it's rude"

But of course, its racist to blame gays for AIDs in the same way it is to blame blacks.

Who has been killed directly because of homosexuality? The key answer here is "directly". As in, because they were attracted to the same sex, they died.

Ask the AIDS victims who would not have caught AIDS if they had not been practicing homosexuality. That's direct enough for me. On that note, think of how far AIDS would have spread in North America if nobody had premarital sex or multiple sex partners. That's right, it wouldn't have spread.

[kari21]

It affects all believers spiritually. Just as all violations of God's Holy law should.

Gay marriage is allowed in Canada. You do not live there. Random gay couple Jay and James gets married. Only in explaining this hypothetical situation will you ever know about these fictitious persons. In reality, you never contact, meet, or even know of these specific people.

Same sort of situation with Muslims praying to Allah in Canada. You will never meet or know them.

How can it possibly affect you?

Also, would AIDS have spread as far and as quickly as it has if the homosexual element was not a factor?

Actually no, and stating something like that is racist. While Gay Males have the highest rate of AIDs, Lesbians have the lowest. It balances out.

It would be like if I asked you "Also, would AIDS have spread as far and as quickly as it has if the African-American element was not a factor?" Because another one of the highest rates for AIDs is Blacks.

But of course, its racist to blame gays for AIDs in the same way it is to blame blacks.

Would all sexually transmitted diseases be as widespread if Biblical morality had not been ignored?

This is irrelevant as to gay marriage affecting you. Unless you were attempting to justify gay marriage by getting them to marry, thus reducing the number of partners one has.

Even so, it is far more effective to use condoms then try teach people not to have sex. Studies have shown that people who are taught abstinence only sex ed have sex at the same median age as everyone else. You'll note in countries where condoms are not widely available and proper sex education is not given, the STD rate is far higher.

Just like when someone drinks, drives, has an accident and kills someone, homosexuality does have physical affects on society as well.

Who has been killed directly because of homosexuality? The key answer here is "directly". As in, because they were attracted to the same sex, they died.

The point being, as Ted touched upon, is it is sin. And sin infects all parts of society. Homosexuality is a vile abomination in God's sight. If you are not for God, then you are against God. No matter how PC this world becomes, God's word will still stand and not change. You are either fighting for God, or, by default, fighting for the devil. There is no middle ground. All lukewarm Christians who are indifferent to God's holy law will be spewed from his mouth. You cannot please man and God. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

Choose this day whom you will serve.

[forrestkc]

Well, I forgot who replied to what, so I'll just throw together a general reply.

I have to agree with you Thoughtful in that I would much rather a child is adopted by homosexual parents than aborted. I do think that homosexual parents would have a negative effect on a child. Especially if the child was the opposite gender of their parents. I know that my life would be a lot more confusing without both parents to go to for advice, because obviously men and women have completely different kinds of advice that they are good at giving. It would just be generally stressful not having a mom and a dad.

Why? Other than it not being what your used to right now I am not sure what your basing that on.

Now I am not saying all homosexual parents are terrible parents who beat their kids, but I am saying that a child raised by good homosexual parents will struggle more during their youth than a child raised by good heterosexual parents.

What are they going to struggle with?

And lastly, you say homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Can I assume that you mean besides the practicing male homosexuals themselves? Practicing homosexuality (for men) can cause a pretty major drop in life expectancy (20 years is the good number, I've heard as bad as 40).

What are you basing this on? I did a search, there is nothing published in any medical journals to base this on. It doesn't even pass the reason test.

[forrestkc]

The point being, as Ted touched upon, is it is sin. And sin infects all parts of society. Homosexuality is a vile abomination in God's sight. If you are not for God, then you are against God. No matter how PC this world becomes, God's word will still stand and not change. You are either fighting for God, or, by default, fighting for the devil. There is no middle ground. All lukewarm Christians who are indifferent to God's holy law will be spewed from his mouth. You cannot please man and God. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

Choose this day whom you will serve.

Sin is sin, but its been my experience that people tend to worry about the sins that personally bother them much more than the sins that seem to have the worst effects on society. For example, some people tend to worry about homosexuality (mentioned a handful of times in scripture), much more than they worry about greed, materialism, and indifference (one of the most common subjects in scripture) even though it far more strongly infects our society.

[kat8585]

Well, I forgot who replied to what, so I'll just throw together a general reply.

I have to agree with you Thoughtful in that I would much rather a child is adopted by homosexual parents than aborted. I do think that homosexual parents would have a negative effect on a child. Especially if the child was the opposite gender of their parents. I know that my life would be a lot more confusing without both parents to go to for advice, because obviously men and women have completely different kinds of advice that they are good at giving. It would just be generally stressful not having a mom and a dad.

Why? Other than it not being what your used to right now I am not sure what your basing that on.

Because God's example is a father and a mother. That's good enough for me. What about what He says in His word about homosexuality? Is that not good enough for you?

Now I am not saying all homosexual parents are terrible parents who beat their kids, but I am saying that a child raised by good homosexual parents will struggle more during their youth than a child raised by good heterosexual parents.

What are they going to struggle with?

Being teased by other kids, for one. It still happens.

And lastly, you say homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. Can I assume that you mean besides the practicing male homosexuals themselves? Practicing homosexuality (for men) can cause a pretty major drop in life expectancy (20 years is the good number, I've heard as bad as 40).

What are you basing this on? I did a search, there is nothing published in any medical journals to base this on. It doesn't even pass the reason test.

I've seen this many times in the past. I couldn't tell you where just now. But what about the harm they cause themselves, with AIDS?

[nebula]

Sin is sin, but its been my experience that people tend to worry about the sins that personally bother them much more than the sins that seem to have the worst effects on society. For example, some people tend to worry about homosexuality (mentioned a handful of times in scripture), much more than they worry about greed, materialism, and indifference (one of the most common subjects in scripture) even though it far more strongly infects our society.

And that means we should stop worrying about homosexuality as sin because. . . .?

[Guest LadyC]

kari's response to thoughtful:

The point being, as Ted touched upon, is it is sin. And sin infects all parts of society. Homosexuality is a vile abomination in God's sight. If you are not for God, then you are against God. No matter how PC this world becomes, God's word will still stand and not change. You are either fighting for God, or, by default, fighting for the devil. There is no middle ground. All lukewarm Christians who are indifferent to God's holy law will be spewed from his mouth. You cannot please man and God. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

Choose this day whom you will serve.

should go down in the worthy hall of fame.

and thoughtful, you should put more thought into God's commands then your own PC thoughts, because your thoughts have been brainwashed. oh, and you should also look up the definition for racism. sorry dude, but homosexuals are not a "race".