Bilderberg conferences

[ladypeartree]

Welcome to worthy ...you may not get to discuss this particular topic in depth here but there are lots of other things to " get your teeth into " and you got to keep "other one" on line longer than the rest of us have managed for a while

[other one]

BTW physicsfreak, I have some really good work friends that are masons (low degrees) and they are very nice people and good work friends. Please don't take my post as being againse all masons.

I do have relatives that were shriners (32 & 33 degree) and we have had a bit of discussion as to the knowledge they posess. Not to get into any real detail, but there are things in the works that they could not talk about. It's a bit to personal go get into, but all of them told me they would rather see me dead than a high level mason.... they felt trapped where they were and were afraid to quit.

[Treasure]

My Grandfather was a mason and for whatever may or may not be true of the organization itself, he was a devoted Christian man. I don't know anything about the "higher degrees" of the masonic lodge but I do know that he was a godly man with a clean heart. I was a member of "Job's Daughers" for a very short time during high school and admit that it was a bit odd but I don't recall anything sinister or evil about it.

[Ddavid from NC]

My Grandfather was a mason and for whatever may or may not be true of the organization itself, he was a devoted Christian man. I don't know anything about the "higher degrees" of the masonic lodge but I do know that he was a godly man with a clean heart. I was a member of "Job's Daughers" for a very short time during high school and admit that it was a bit odd but I don't recall anything sinister or evil about it.

The History Channel did a very fair treatment of Freemasonry in an expose entitled The Secret Origins of Freemasonry. If you really are serious about this advise you get a copy. I bought one and it answers a lot of questions. It is not a religious group trying to discredit but a documentary treatment that is pretty fair. It debunks some false beliefs wrongly believed by those outside and also addresses some things as Christians we should be concerned about before dismissing it as merely a fraternity.

[Treasure]

My Grandfather was a mason and for whatever may or may not be true of the organization itself, he was a devoted Christian man. I don't know anything about the "higher degrees" of the masonic lodge but I do know that he was a godly man with a clean heart. I was a member of "Job's Daughers" for a very short time during high school and admit that it was a bit odd but I don't recall anything sinister or evil about it.

The History Channel did a very fair treatment of Freemasonry in an expose entitled The Secret Origins of Freemasonry. If you really are serious about this advise you get a copy. I bought one and it answers a lot of questions. It is not a religious group trying to discredit but a documentary treatment that is pretty fair. It debunks some false beliefs wrongly believed by those outside and also addresses some things as Christians we should be concerned about before dismissing it as merely a fraternity.

Thank you for the info. I think I saw the program you're referring to and it was interesting, but at this time in my life, I'm just not interested in finding more information. Like I said, I'm not sure of the organization itself but I do my my Grandfather. He saved my life many times as a child. I'm absolutely certain that he was God's hand of protection.

[MorningGlory]

No offense intended, physicsfreak, but this is one of the oldest 'urban legends' on the internet. There may be a grain of truth in there somewhere but...my grandfather was a freemason and the only secret he held close was the barbeque sauce recipe.

No offense glory, but if your grandfather was at the 30 degree or higher he did have many secrets....

I would think, considering the multitudes that have been members of the Freemasons for centuries, that the secrets would have come out by now. I mean, please, our government is supposed to be riddled with them; our government can't keep anything from leaking out! I think this stuff belong in the box with Big Foot and alien autopsies.

[other one]

No offense intended, physicsfreak, but this is one of the oldest 'urban legends' on the internet. There may be a grain of truth in there somewhere but...my grandfather was a freemason and the only secret he held close was the barbeque sauce recipe.

No offense glory, but if your grandfather was at the 30 degree or higher he did have many secrets....

I would think, considering the multitudes that have been members of the Freemasons for centuries, that the secrets would have come out by now. I mean, please, our government is supposed to be riddled with them; our government can't keep anything from leaking out! I think this stuff belong in the box with Big Foot and alien autopsies.

Ooouuuuuu, I can't go along with that....... but I can't tell you why.

If you care to learn about masonry there are several books available written by masons and exmasons. "Morals and Dogma" is a good start if you can get through it. It's about 850 pages. Manley P. Hall has written several books concerning the higher knowledge.... I find that books are much better information than just looking through the internet and getting others opinions of the books.

As for the long term secrets of plans for future actions by the society, you won't get far in learning about those unless you are part of them. They take their oaths serously at that level, and only those who are willing to keep them are allowed to progress to the very top.

I have a very good friend who's dad was a mason in his early life; but had not been involved for most of 20 eyars. The night he died they sent someone to be in his room until he died..... didn't say a single word or make any movements to help or console either his dad or him...... just stayed there until he died and left. The only reason the family would think of for what transpired was to be sure he did not pass on anything as he died, for the person who came didn't do anything at all to help anyone or anything.

Yeah, secrets are kept every day, by our government and all kinds of societies..... at least the ones that really matter are.

[Ddavid from NC]

Spooky but I don't think there are any secrets or agendas by the members, just universialism in a nice package

[other one]

Spooky but I don't think there are any secrets or agendas by the members, just universialism in a nice package

You'll change your mind when you find out where the Light comes from.

[EricH]

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