For Those who Believe in Women Not Wearing Pants

[Xan]

I could be wrong, but I think those who are against women wearing pants are also against women in combat, so it's probably moot. As far as women in the military in non-com roles (which might be what you're asking), such as nurses or clerks, I don't see how wearing skirts in those jobs would get in the way.

However, do you mind if I take this into the civilian realm and ask about female police officers?

for the most part the uniform is the same for men and women except for the dress uniforms. the clerk sitting at the desk is wearing the same basic uniform the guy in the field is wearing. Most military people from all services spend their work days in cammies (or what ever the branch calls them), and there are not skirts in that uniform

Ummm... yeah, I know that. Finding out the uniform requirements was not the purpose of the OP.

[MorningGlory]

I'm a Christian and I don't see anything wrong with any woman wearing slacks or jeans. A lot of women at our church wear slacks and a couple wear jeans.

Dress slacks or jeans are much more modest than skirts or dresses....unless it's the 'prairie dress' thing that the FLDS women wear and who's going to wear those? I work at an oil company, 95% men, and I just don't think it would be modest to be up on the cat walks in a skirt! As for female soldiers out in the field....they can hardly train in dresses now, can they? To me this is more about controlling women than wanting to see more modesty....what man doesn't want to admire legs? Nothing wrong with that, not at all, but let's call it what it is.

[kittylover0991]

*Edit, please know that this in love*)

Okay... forgive me....

This thread is NOT for debating about what IS and is NOT modest. Please. I don't want to close the thread and if it turns into such, I will close it myself no problem.... I'm really looking for an answer to this question.....

This thread is NOT about how "modest dress" is all about oppression.... etc.... this isn't about the standrads of people who believe in modest dress and waht they think about combat. I have, for almost five years now, been convicted about modest dress in the area of not pants, etc, and it wasn't until recently, when it was explained to me maybe a week ago about women in combat, where I have come to understand that maybe it's for the better that women are not considering a lot of stories, etc. That is not based on bible. I know that wasn't meant as an attack, or at least I'd like to assume that it wasn't.

But PLEASE do not turn this into a debate about whether pants are considered modest. I'm simplpy trying to get the opinion of people who believe that pants are not modest for women (btw, I don't think they are modest for men either, but I don' really have a say in the matter.... go society)... and Im' trying to get opinions about being in the military considering the regulations on dress standards. Both of my parents were in the air force for about twenty years, one of them over twenty years... they wore BDU's just about every day to work, except when they had to wear their dress blues, which for the ladies invovled a skirt. I have lived on a military base for almost 18 years, and I have a general undersatnding of what is and is not worn in the military....thank you for the information for those who may not know.

This might come out as bit harsh, but Im' serious.... now that we have an understanding that people don't agree on modest dress..... for those who believe taht pants are not modest, would it be right or wrong to join the military where it's basically a given that pants woudl have to be worn?

[Guest man]

This might come out as bit harsh, but Im' serious.... now that we have an understanding that people don't agree on modest dress..... for those who believe taht pants are not modest, would it be right or wrong to join the military where it's basically a given that pants woudl have to be worn?

If one is against women wearing pants, then the logical answer to your question is that it would be wrong for a woman to join the military.

[nebula]

For those who believe that pants are immodest on women, do you think that a woman should not join a military position in which pants woudl be required?

Well, I suggested talking with a recruiter because they might know if there are any provisions for women who have religious convictions with regards to pants.

Now, I know females who work in office types of roles have a skirt uniform they wear (Air Force comes to mind). However, I do not know if you can get through basic training with any type of pant alternative.

In that regard, I have to agree with "man" - if you can't get through Basic in a skirt or pants that are cut like skirts (I forget what those are called), and if you cannot consciously wear pants, then it would seem joining the military would not be an option.

[LadyRaven]

For those who believe that pants are immodest on women, do you think that a woman should not join a military position in which pants woudl be required?

Well, I suggested talking with a recruiter because they might know if there are any provisions for women who have religious convictions with regards to pants.

Now, I know females who work in office types of roles have a skirt uniform they wear (Air Force comes to mind). However, I do not know if you can get through basic training with any type of pant alternative.

In that regard, I have to agree with "man" - if you can't get through Basic in a skirt or pants that are cut like skirts (I forget what those are called), and if you cannot consciously wear pants, then it would seem joining the military would not be an option.

*MOST* people who say they believe that women should not wear pants actually are just overstating their beliefs for sake of simplicity, as I do. I believe that women are to not wear men's garments. Ergo, dresses and skirts are the easiest way to do this in this space and time and so I usually do not wear pants.

However. I have done so in some jobs where I climbed and etc. I wore women's culottes or pants or pedal pushers or shorts. I have a pt gig where I clean range hoods with a group of men, skirts are just not suitable. I have one pair of pedal pushers and one pair of bright pink sweats. No man would ever wear either of them. But, if you do not believe that pants or shorts or whatever manufactured for specifically for women are acceptable, then this option does not exist for you, unless you believe its ok for women to wear shorts UNDER their dresses or skirts.

As for the military.

If you are a dress/skirt only person then you cannot be in the military...or a police officer or whatever where there is not a uniform with a skirt component that you can wear all the time, even in training. If you believe that garments manufactured for women specifically are fine, then as far as I know you can get through. Garments for men and women were still manufactured differently for each when I was in (although I believe women were allowed to wear men's battle fatigues if they chose to). But then again, I got out of the AF in the 1900s.

[O'Dannyboy]

I found this Web Article that goes into detail about the various interpretations of Deuteronomy 22.5 and how it relates to Jewish Laws. After reading it over it's pretty obvious the issue some people have against women in "mens clothes" is largely due to misinterpretation and over generalization.

[David of Derby]

Hey everyone

I know there are a few on here who do not believe that pants are modest on women. The last time I tried a thread like this, it turned into a debate and I'm pretty sure it got closed down. Im' asking that this does not become a debate between people who do and do not have the conviction about women and pants.

For those who do believe it is not modest, what do you think about women joining the military, considering they would be required to wear the military uniform which, if i'm not mistaken, requires pants?

Thank you

In Christ,

Crystal

A proper military uniform has a female version. British Number 2 Dress has a skirt for female soldiers.

[kat8585]

A proper military uniform has a female version. British Number 2 Dress has a skirt for female soldiers.

That sounds real suitable!!

[LadyRaven]

A proper military uniform has a female version. British Number 2 Dress has a skirt for female soldiers.

That sounds real suitable!!

yeah, but, in basic training, there is another uniform worn which undoubtedly does not include a skirt or dress.

The US military has skirts for their dress uniform. The BDU does not have a skirt though, and cannot. It's for use in climbing and crawling and such.