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"Now we do live in a world so badly corrupted and at a land so bizarre today that reporting knowledge of a crime has some quirky rules to be followed, as I learned to be the case for reporting false documents of workers at the workplace for example, and that can be most discouraging. None the less if I am being robbed, and robbed again, and again, I want to stop it. Hopefully if there are witnesses they will step up and declare their knowledge of the situation/crime." In 1955 or therabouts, it was alread reported that the usa was a police state like germany had been/was.... just more 'subtle' in order to keep most of the population under control, passive. Now it seems the whole system is so badly corrupted, that 'playing the system' is encouraged even by churches! "a land so bizarre today".... and in order to get assurance of assistance later when martial law is declared, they most all play along. The ones who attempt to expose the system, politic or civil or medico or religious or education or finance are called religious fanatics, crazy, crack pots, and worse. Turning people in to the system may be worse than PRAYING ONLY, and finding another way to help them, as the martyrs in germany during wwII helped whoever knocked on their door --- (did not willingly turn them in to the german authorities) --- ((they even counterfeited food coupons so they could get food)) -- realizing the battle is not with flesh and blood, but with spiritual forces in high places......

People have always been given choices, who to serve. Deceivers, false prophets, false teachers are much more common than truth , and YHWH and Y'SHUA always warned to not listen to them. YHWH provides a way to be free from them, but often it requires leaving all previous life behind, including family, friends, neighbors, and groups someone has grown up with. When people refuse to give up their friends, family, and religion they grew up with, they won't learn the truth nor receive YHWH'S perfect gifts, including salvation. Whoever comes to Y'SHUA (JESUS) , HE will not turn away. HIS PROMISE. HIS WORD. Y'SHUA is FAITHFUL, perfectly. And YHWH always guards HIS WORD to accomplish it.

Not quite, since the enemy comes only to kill, to steal and to destroy. And lie all the time. Anything and everything good comes from YHWH, and HE turns everything , good and bad, to the good of everyone who loves YHWH, who are called according to HIS PURPOSE. The enemy can 'heal' and even raise from the dead as has been witnessed for much longer than we have been alive on earth today, but the healing the enemy does is always deceptive, leading to destruction. One girl in africa was 'healed' of a very visible facial deformity when she was young(about 3 y.o.)by a witch doctor (devil worshiper). The 'healing' held (lasted about 7 or 10 years, for all to see. Then a true messenger from YHWH with the GOSPEL and the POWER of JESUS came to the village and healed many who were sick. They prayed for this little girl, AND HER FACIAL DEFORMATY RETURNED.... (actually became visible again)... the first prayers had been for the girl to be released from the power of the devil. THEN they prayed , for her to be TRULY HEALED, and her face (and whole person) was PERFECTLY HEALED AT ONCE BY JESUS - and she and her family and community all gave glory to YHWH CREATOR and Y'SHUA MESSIAH and learned to worship the ONE TRUE GOD, YHWH, and not to serve the witchdoctors nor the devil nor to fear them any more.

Throughout all the centuries, the followers of JESUS have helped people escape CONTRARY to the law of the land, in many instances, in many countries, in many wars and peace time(so-called). Even giving up their own lives for the lives of others, helping them escape, and dying for helping them instead of trying to save their own lives by turning them in. Secular and religious authorities all through the centuries, in most countries, have put to death multitudes including millions of the followers of JESUS, EVEN IF they did not break any lawful law. (and no trial needed many times). .....

COOL! Remember always we are the sheep, and Y'SHUA MESSIAH is the SHEPHERD. Whenever sheep get entangled (which is often, if you know sheep (or people) ) it is the SHEPHERD'S good pleasure to unentangle them, perfectly. All the sheep have to do is follow the shepherd, listen to HIS VOICE.... (sometimes it may take 30 years or more, not to hear HIS VOICE (that's immediate), but to be led out of such entanglements - HIS TIMING IS PERFECT, always)...

Correct - it is overwhelming, the number of people receiving "entitlements" unjustly..... even the current/past workers handling the cases, and their supervisors, have said everyone else they knew in the system was lying. (yes, they said everyone else). This is not even a secret, not in high places, and not in low places - just no one in thesystem wants the system to be fixed; instead they all want to get more out of it...

TOP THREE SITES ON SEARCH: How Can Jesus Be God and Man? | Desiring God www.desiringgod.org/articles/how-can-jesus-be-god-and-man Oct 5, 2006 - Jesus Christ is both fully divine and fully human, yet one person. ... Another helpful way to say it is that Jesus is 100% God and 100% man. "Where Does the Bible Say Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God?" https://www.probe.org/where-does-the-bible-say-jesus-is-100-man-and-100-god/ Mar 5, 2009 - Why do Christians believe that Jesus was fully divine and fully human, then? Well, we look at what the Bible does teach and we seem to be ... What is the hypostatic union? How can Jesus be both ... - Got Questions https://www.gotquestions.org/hypostatic-union.html Answer: The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time.

Sure, but in the past (and still and now exposed), they with all the other nations were just pretending ! Actors(hypocrites) on the stage of life.....

I didn't read the whole thread, but just noticed this part of your post now - that what you (apparently) meant was "is healing proof of God?". That answer is very very very much EASIER than what I thought from the OP. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Healing that you might see or hear about, IS NOT PROOF of YHWH'S involvement even. As noted like a sub-topic, healing is OFTEN DECEPTIVE - much much more COMMON than TRUE HEALING IS. In a kind of strange contrast also: many here and in churches do not believe in healing, and actually refuse to think about it or look into it. Perhaps because they've been hurt so much in the past, I don't know. But real and true healing may be sought from GOD thru JESUS CHRIST, and HIS WAY (not man's way), and true healing is not unbiblical nor is it altogether uncommon - just more rare and unknown than all the wrong ways that are well publicized to deceive.

The following quote from an unknown website, untested, unvetter, unverified, is UNIQUE to say the least. A communist who apparently still doesn't believe in heaven, but now believes in hell, as he states in his own words. " ""As a communist I don’t believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr. Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we know what we heard. And we are absolutely convinced that we drilled through the gates of hell!" Dr. Azzacove continued, ". . .the drill suddenly began to rotate wildly, indicating that we had reached a large empty pocket or cavern. Temperature sensors showed a dramatic increase in heat to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit." "We lowered a microphone, designed to detect the sounds of plate movements down the shaft. But instead of plate movements we heard a human voice screaming in pain! At first we thought the sound was coming from our own equipment." "But when we made adjustments our worst suspicions were confirmed. The screams weren’t those of a single human, they were the screams of millions of humans!" "

Havah (Eve)

From this excerpt in wikixxxxxxx it looks like another name for "a form of religion denying the power" that has long been described in SCRIPTURE (many people deny the power, but love the form of religion, all thru history). "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity" (empty) ... excerpt:In his writings Cupitt sometimes describes himself as Christian non-realist, by which he means that he follows certain spiritual practices and attempts to live by ethical standards traditionally associated with Christianity but without believing in the actual existence of the underlying metaphysical entities (such as "Christ" and "God"). He calls this way of being a non-realist Christian "solar living".

Well, unexpectedly, this comparison came to me after I read the OP : If someone goes to a doctor's office, do they prefer one where the results are healing, (JOYFUL!), or do they prefer one where they continue needing to return month after month for years , sometimes "all their life" ? For comparison also, just realized - notice the ones who advertise the most, or who are promoted the most by government and society , are the ones who cannot get the customers by succeeding! (i.e. the worse get the most publicity, very strange indeed....)....

This is an old long thread; did anyone show from SCRIPTURE when a NAME IS WRITTEN in the BOOK OF LIFE ? Just a quik search found this site: (untested) http://www.letgodbetrue.com/questions/book-of-life.php Which indicates right or wrong that the NAMES are written BEFORE the earth was created. Other SCRIPTURE warns about not being BLOTTED OUT of the BOOK OF LIFE..... And , apparently, no SCRIPTURE indicates someone can GET THEIR NAME WRITTEN IN..... only ERASE?!

Everywhere JESUS and HIS disciples went, they healed people and cast out demons. They proclaimed the GOOD NEWS of SALVATION . AND , (unless there is an exception somewhere), EVERYWHERE they went, they "alientated" so many people , (THE GOOD NEWS was offensive to many! ) especially (to) those in power, and they were usually (1) run out of town, (2) spit on and cursed, (3) beaten, (4) arrested, and often IMPRISONED and (5) executed. Mankind, society, towns TODAY are no better than they were in JESUS TIME on earth, so the exact same treatment (or worse) still happens , all over the world.(this is what people see every day, if they see it; it is the "normal" condition almost everywhere) Remember YHWH'S WORD, HIS INSTRUCTION, and like Keith Green's Bibliography/Book: "No Compromise" ..... or even before that, JESUS WORD: "I come NOT to bring peace, but a sword" even though the PEACE HE GIVES is perfect and the world cannot take it away, neither can they receive it, rather ironically they refuse it and fight against HIM. Yes, like KING DAVID, We(ecclesia) are for peace, but they are for war (like in Athens)..... ... Psalm 120:7 Commentary - The Treasury of David - Bible Study Tools www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/...david/psalms-120-7.html - Cached - Similar EXPOSITION. Verse 7. I am for peace. Properly, "I am peace"; desirous of peace, peaceful, forbearing, -- in fact, peace itself. But when I speak, they are for war.

Statements (1) and (2) are contradictory, (UNLESS "we" is restricted to the remnant), and , likewise, all the SCRIPTURE POSTED IS TRUTH, but shows clearly that (1) is not true (UNLESS "we" is restricted to the remnant), while (2) has always been true.

Y'SHUA and all the Apostles and [likely] all the disciples immersed in Y'SHUA all went every week to synagogue for the same reason.

I think Islam and Isis and terrorists etc etc are all mere distractions from the real power behind the one world beast. Like a few other posters who identified the beast, I see the whole world being tricked - so much so that the beast is actually exalted and defended most of the time. (not feared nor fought against like Islam and Isis ) .... (feel free to delete this post if desired)

The BIBLE doesn't say not to do what YHWH'S people do today. Even the Apostles said "One sows, another waters, but it is YHWH WHO gives the growth(if there is any)". YHWH CREATOR (GOD) establishes who HE wants, where HE wants. YHWH lifts up , and YHWH brings down. Blessed be HIS NAME. Where 2 or 3 are gathered in Y'SHUA'S NAME , they are YHWH'S set apart ecclesia, talking to one another about HIM. "Ecclesia" is not what "church" is today. (Compare all thru the NEW TESTAMENT, with the assemblies of YHWH'S PEOPLE, and see if there are any similarities and what the similarities are when there are any). "Ecclesia" was some time in the past changed from the assembly of YHWH'S people to a building or an organization called "church", thus causing a lot of confusion at times. When YHWH'S set apart people meet together to talk of HIM, that is "church" SCRIPTURALLY. Sure, they can meet in regular buildings also, and at regular times, and as YHWH has appointed, they do. So, if YHWH'S people meet outside of those buildings, at other places, at other times, as YHWH has appointed, that is good too. Let YHWH'S people meet everywhere and anywhere YHWH appoints or allows or arranges, as we/they talk about HIM.

Yes, the whole world is deceived, whether easily, or not. (SCRIPTURE says so). Yes, missionaries around the world for hundreds of years have reported not only healing but raising the dead being 'routine' (like in china and africa) amongst the devil worshipers. No big surprise to them. It is always to deceive people, and to keep them deceived. Here's YHWH'S WORD to healing at the pool, where many people (but only one at a time when the angel moved the water) were healed. (Many more were healed in a short time by the handkerchiefs of the APOSTLES of JESUS, and for a time even by one's shadow touching the sick.). American King James Version For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatever disease he had. American Standard Version for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the waters stepped in was made whole, with whatsoever disease he was holden. Douay-Rheims Bible And an angel of the Lord descended at certain times into the pond; and the water was moved. And he that went down first into the pond after the motion of the water, was made whole, of whatsoever infirmity he lay under. Darby Bible Translation For an angel descended at a certain season in the pool and troubled the water. Whoever therefore first went in after the troubling of the water became well, whatever disease he laboured under.] English Revised Version Webster's Bible Translation For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and agitated the water: whoever then first after the stirring of the water stepped in, was cured of whatever disease he had. Weymouth New Testament World English Bible for an angel went down at certain times into the pool, and stirred up the water. Whoever stepped in first after the stirring of the water was made whole of whatever disease he had. Young's Literal Translation for a messenger at a set time was going down in the pool, and was troubling the water, the first then having gone in after the troubling of the water, became whole of whatever sickness he was held. Commentary Matthew Henry Commentary 5:1-9 We are all by nature impotent folk in spiritual things, blind, halt, and withered; but full provision is made for our cure, if we attend to it. An angel went down, and troubled the water; and what disease soever it was, this water cured it, but only he that first stepped in had benefit. This teaches us to be careful, that we let not a season slip which may never return. The man had lost the use of his limbs thirty-eight years. Shall we, who perhaps for many years have scarcely known what it has been to be a day sick, complain of one wearisome night, when many others, better than we, have scarcely known what it has been to be a day well? Christ singled this one out from the rest. Those long in affliction, may comfort themselves that God keeps account how long. Observe, this man speaks of the unkindness of those about him, without any peevish reflections. As we should be thankful, so we should be patient. Our Lord Jesus cures him, though he neither asked nor thought of it. Arise, and walk. God's command, Turn and live; Make ye a new heart; no more supposes power in us without the grace of God, his distinguishing grace, than this command supposed such power in the impotent man: it was by the power of Christ, and he must have all the glory. What a joyful surprise to the poor cripple, to find himself of a sudden so easy, so strong, so able to help himself! The proof of spiritual cure, is our rising and walking. Has Christ healed our spiritual diseases, let us go wherever he sends us, and take up whatever he lays upon us; and walk before him.

It's not a very suitable subject at all for the public / young people/ in a setting like this forum. (i.e. deal with this honestly and biblically and properly for young children , teens, and others, requires more control I think than is available on most any forum). It is very gruesome, and disturbing, and not just in the centuries of BIBLE TIMES. There is a lot of information in Foxes Book of Martyrs that is very hard to bear, even though they gave their lives for the GOSPEL'S SAKE. The "church" was often the permetrators , the reason and the force for a lot of punishment too horrible to describe here, and for martyrs all through the centuries, not to mention even worse things done by the pagan heathen wicked nations all through history.

Even if they are "unclean" ? (according to YHWH'S WORD (BIBLE) and not man's thoughts nor emotions nor feelings)

(1) Where does Christianity win ? (it is a wonder (and wonderful) when it does) But WHERE? (2) THE SAVIOR JESUS, YHWH'S(GOD'S) WORD, declares HIS WAY is not the most popular, by far. (5) (3)& (5) Christianity , of YHWH, is the testimony(WITH the BLOOD of the LAMB) that overcomes the world. Nothing else overcomes the world (or sin, or the devil, etc). So even if it is "weakest" in an area and not appearing "strong" at all, it is the ONLY WAY TO LIFE, FREEDOM FROM SIN. (4) & (6) YHWH'S WORD IS TRUTH. No other religion (and much fraud(false teachers and false prophets JESUS warned about) inside Christianity) has any TRUTH. All the other ways of men/ religion/, no matter how they appear, are leading to DEATH. (7) Christianity is not the most sought , nor by far is it the most chosen on earth. It is outnumbered by many other (evil) choices).

Sorry, it appears your experiences, while even perhaps real and maybe not fake, are deceiving you. Every one of those YHWH reveals HIS WORD (SCRIPTURES) to is becoming in (works out totally in) complete harmony with all of HIS WORD, and with each other, no matter where they are in the world. Whatever does not line up with YHWH'S WORD, is not truth.

Who historically after ACTS, centuries later, experienced heaven ? Look if you can for the "secret of the Anabaptists". (online, free) They lived as they did in ACTS. Same YHWH (GOD), Same Savior (Y'SHUA), Same SPIRIT, Same TRUTH, Same SALVATION, Same POWER (to resist the enemy, to overcome the enemy, to live the LIFE OF Y'SHUA(JESUS) here on earth, unlike other religious groups who had (and have) no power. As for experiences, visions, etc, these are actually fairly common on earth, and almoost all fake.