Racism

[Trusting Jesus]

I'm a member, (soon to not be) of another forum.

A certain person posted a topic that gives government statistics and says, that 50% of murders are caused by black people. Then goes on to say that black people are at a spiritual disadvantage because of their race.

I can't seem to get through to them and it's making me very angry. What's worse is other members are agreeing and patting him on the back for his bravery in stating the truth!

Then they all say I'm wrong and comparing what they're saying to the ayran christian church.

I don't get it! There's all this talk about the mark of cain, blah blah blah blah blah.

What is wrong with people???????????

Can't they see it's thinking like that that breads racial groups. Such as the KKK, or New Nazis? I used to think the same way, and at the same time, I was white power and hated everyone who wasn't white. Now they say they're not racist because they have black friends or what not.

Anyway,, I'm sorry, I know I'm new here, and this is a deep topic, I just needed to vent.

I didn't go through all of the posts here, so I don't know if this has been said or not. First of all we are all shades of brown - some lighter, some darker. We all came from Adam and Eve, so they passed on the tendency to be darker or lighter. As for the "mark of Cain", that is just what someone made up. If (and I stress "if") it were true, that line would have all been wiped out during the Flood.

Statistics can be made to support whatever point a person wants to make. The questions asked, the wording of the question, and the wording of the choices of answers all can make the outcome slant in a certain direction.

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Nathele

[Scarletprayers]

I went over to the site they are talking about......................you couldn't pay me to join up there.

[Deepblue]

It's hard to argue with facts and statistics... it is what it is...

But an uninformed slant against someone with a darker skin color because of those facts, which encompass a group, rather than individuals... well, that's ungodly!

It's a shame that the entire black community gets stereotyped because of the faults of others (gang members and mainstream rap artists)

Stats, race, and stereotypes don't matter. The Bible tells us that all have sinned. Even if people are looked at as "good" people or "bad" people, they're all the same without Christ, lost. They're all the same with Christ, saved.

[Deepblue]

I would leave that site and never look back. Racism has no place in the heart of a true Christian. The good Lord made us the way he wanted us; in varying skin colors. This is what He wanted; who are we to say one race is superior to another? Physically there are very few differences among the races; we are all descended from the same two people. Intelligence is not determined by race either, there is no difference between white, black, Asian, Native or any other race. Racism really gets my ire up and I never hesitate to tell anyone how I feel about it. We should look at the heart, not the complexion, just as our Lord and Savior does.

I agree 100 percent! Yet I have met Christians that think other wise Morning Glory, and have been in long Biblical debates over things such as racial marriage not being a sin. I think that even some Christians just can't get over how they were brought up or had been thinking their whole lives, even when the Bible speaks against what they say.

[Guest HIS girl]

There is nothing more nauseating than a racist Christian.

It reeks of opposition to His Word.

To love one another as Christ loved us.

Racism is anti-brotherhood.

[Rick-Parker]

I'm a member, (soon to not be) of another forum.

A certain person posted a topic that gives government statistics and says, that 50% of murders are caused by black people. Then goes on to say that black people are at a spiritual disadvantage because of their race.

I can't seem to get through to them and it's making me very angry. What's worse is other members are agreeing and patting him on the back for his bravery in stating the truth!

Then they all say I'm wrong and comparing what they're saying to the ayran christian church.

I don't get it! There's all this talk about the mark of cain, blah blah blah blah blah.

What is wrong with people???????????

Can't they see it's thinking like that that breads racial groups. Such as the KKK, or New Nazis? I used to think the same way, and at the same time, I was white power and hated everyone who wasn't white. Now they say they're not racist because they have black friends or what not.

Anyway,, I'm sorry, I know I'm new here, and this is a deep topic, I just needed to vent.

This is very racist and coming from a person who can see things only at face value and decides not to look at the bigger picture.

We have to remember slavery in the US was abolished only a few generations ago. A very short time ago, Black people were brought to America against their will, in chains, and treated worse than animals. As a result of that ill treatment, and horrible treatment long after slavery was abolished has given them a reason to be angry and hateful. The kkk, lack of human rights until the 60's and other astrocities has given some of them a 'reason' to be hateful and unproductive to this day. Is it a spiritual bondage? Yes, but it has nothing to do with their skin colour - it's about the way they were so badly treated and the generations passing down anger and hatred. On the other hand, a great many have let go of the past and gone on to lead productive and happy and successful lives in America.

Anger and hatred can be passed down through ANY and EVERY various ethnic groups, for a variety of reasons. All kinds of sin can be passed down - molestation, alcoholism, violence, racism. Skin color hasn't a thing to do with it. The devil doesn't descriminate based on skin color. But he will use our bad experiences and our history against us to cause us to hate and to perpetrate evil and pass down hatred.

BTW - most, by far, serial killers are white males.

Slam me if you will. How long is this type of thinking going to be perpetrated? What you have said historically is true. But it has been long enough, with reverse discrimination and quotas, that any disparities are fed by a poor me attitude. Everyone has the opportunity to succeed in this country these days, and those who choose to game the system, collect welfare, and make babies; those that leave them and their mothers to survive on their own while they choose to waste their lives using drugs and roaming the streets deserve what they get. Black or white. So please, spare the white guilt trip.

[Deepblue]

I don't see the point in any of us comparing crime stats by race or gender? Why do that? Sure the people where the topic maker saw all the racism has people with terrible views against the opposite color, but I don't see the point in taking up the same kind of behavior by bringing in race with stats and what not. Race, type of sin, or who does it most does not matter!!!

Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

John 3:36 - Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."

[James M]

I'm a member, (soon to not be) of another forum.

A certain person posted a topic that gives government statistics and says, that 50% of murders are caused by black people. Then goes on to say that black people are at a spiritual disadvantage because of their race.

I can't seem to get through to them and it's making me very angry. What's worse is other members are agreeing and patting him on the back for his bravery in stating the truth!

Then they all say I'm wrong and comparing what they're saying to the ayran christian church.

I don't get it! There's all this talk about the mark of cain, blah blah blah blah blah.

What is wrong with people???????????

Can't they see it's thinking like that that breads racial groups. Such as the KKK, or New Nazis? I used to think the same way, and at the same time, I was white power and hated everyone who wasn't white. Now they say they're not racist because they have black friends or what not.

Anyway,, I'm sorry, I know I'm new here, and this is a deep topic, I just needed to vent.

Doesn't rasism fall into the offence catagory and the love your brother catagory of true christianity? If, we are commanded by no other than Christ Himself to love our fellow man as we love ourselves, what does that say about the people whom discriminate against any race, or group of people, and where does it stop? Are we suppose to let the powers and principalities who use such people to offend us into anger and bitterness, thats in the Gospel also; we should not be offended but pray for the ones that believe in such things. The book "The bait of Satan" by John Bevere covers all such acts of offence, we should pray that Jesus removes this from us, It is a good read and recommended to anyone who is offended easily. I have never been prejudice and have been offended by people who are just plain ignorant, but Have learned that they also need Christ, even if witnessing to them seems a waste to me, I know that God Has a motive and reason for me to witness and spread the Gospel to them. My hopes is that they find salvation and learn to love there brother just as I do.

I would tell the truth, that is that even if someone irratates me to anger, I don't have to use that anger in a negative and sinful way, I can give that anger to Christ and do as is good.

anymore and I will be just running on, so I must stop

May the Peace of God be with you until we meet again

P.S. If all three families of the sons of Noah could work together this world would be a differant place!

James M

[James M]

I don't get it! There's all this talk about the mark of cain, blah blah blah blah blah.

Black was not the mark of Cain think about the flood of Noah all of Cain's descendent's was destroyed in the flood so none of his descendent's live today.

I wonder what in the world would the mark of Cain have to do with any prejudice. The knowledge of the Curse Noah put on the son(s) of Ham would be the closest to any biblical truth on the basis for any difference at all. The truth that I have seen in life and history is that without the Sons of Ham inventing so much and handing it over to Shem and Japhaths decendants we wouldn't be out of the stone age yet. When all Three learn to work together we will have a very beuatiful world, SHem seems to be the Religious Branch, Japhath the spreader and improver on inventions, and Ham seems to invent and pass on the invention to Shem or Japhath. Just something I have learned over time, Ham was everywhere before Japhath, even in America, Ham lead the way as The American Indians.

Skin colour has no respect in God's eye, and isn't this the Human race, so why cant we all just do as Christ said "Love one another as I have loved you"

[damo1]

I'm a member, (soon to not be) of another forum.

A certain person posted a topic that gives government statistics and says, that 50% of murders are caused by black people. Then goes on to say that black people are at a spiritual disadvantage because of their race.

I can't seem to get through to them and it's making me very angry. What's worse is other members are agreeing and patting him on the back for his bravery in stating the truth!

Then they all say I'm wrong and comparing what they're saying to the ayran christian church.

I don't get it! There's all this talk about the mark of cain, blah blah blah blah blah.

What is wrong with people???????????

Can't they see it's thinking like that that breads racial groups. Such as the KKK, or New Nazis? I used to think the same way, and at the same time, I was white power and hated everyone who wasn't white. Now they say they're not racist because they have black friends or what not.

Anyway,, I'm sorry, I know I'm new here, and this is a deep topic, I just needed to vent.

This is very racist and coming from a person who can see things only at face value and decides not to look at the bigger picture.

We have to remember slavery in the US was abolished only a few generations ago. A very short time ago, Black people were brought to America against their will, in chains, and treated worse than animals. As a result of that ill treatment, and horrible treatment long after slavery was abolished has given them a reason to be angry and hateful. The kkk, lack of human rights until the 60's and other astrocities has given some of them a 'reason' to be hateful and unproductive to this day. Is it a spiritual bondage? Yes, but it has nothing to do with their skin colour - it's about the way they were so badly treated and the generations passing down anger and hatred. On the other hand, a great many have let go of the past and gone on to lead productive and happy and successful lives in America.

Anger and hatred can be passed down through ANY and EVERY various ethnic groups, for a variety of reasons. All kinds of sin can be passed down - molestation, alcoholism, violence, racism. Skin color hasn't a thing to do with it. The devil doesn't descriminate based on skin color. But he will use our bad experiences and our history against us to cause us to hate and to perpetrate evil and pass down hatred.

BTW - most, by far, serial killers are white males.

Slam me if you will. How long is this type of thinking going to be perpetrated? What you have said historically is true. But it has been long enough, with reverse discrimination and quotas, that any disparities are fed by a poor me attitude. Everyone has the opportunity to succeed in this country these days, and those who choose to game the system, collect welfare, and make babies; those that leave them and their mothers to survive on their own while they choose to waste their lives using drugs and roaming the streets deserve what they get. Black or white. So please, spare the white guilt trip.

i am not going to slam you parker 1

but you show me the stats where what you said is to be the truth everyone has the oppertunity to succeed and i wil show you stats where ethnic groups have not been given this chance i wil show you how the white majority treat people from diffrent cultures and i wil show you how diffrent culturs treat their own people and i wil show you were the body of christ has even does this

the way i see it its like a pecking order if you are on top of the lader and if you are a white male or white women living in the countrys you live in not just america and australia oppertunitys are given to you and to your children were you hav a rigth for a decent education health care and so on

i can also show you how the poor are treated in the philippines and in india and in australia

in the philippines if you are born into a poor family you hav no right to a good job a good education or health care

my fiance and her sisters and brothers are the lucky ones they have parents who worked hard to put them threw school my fiance went to south korea and worked in south korea for three years

their are churches comming behind filapino pastors were they sponcer a poor child the sponcership provided uniform for the child health care three meals a day for the child food for the family school fees and school books school bag and hair cut and school shoes the sponcership can last right up from kindergarten to high school to collage wer the poor child learns a trade

if you are born into a rich family weather you are black white arab croatian you are fine all doors will open up to you you wil never have to strugle

please i dont want to hear the ones who choose this life style are bums and they deserve what they get

this is whats being discussed in the forum proffesor wrench is about to leave

white people are good at comming down on color people from other countrys parker1

its been like this for a long time parker

and its like this in every culture parker were the child is brought up not to hang out with a certain group

i see this in australia and i see this when i am in the philippines and it brakes my heart when i see a poor child searching threw the tip or begging looking at you to give them a hand out instead of a chance a hand up

when i got of the plane in manila it hits you when i cought the bus from manila to ormoc bus terminal it hits you the poor come up to you

the poor even stand in front of the catholic churches in ormoc begging westerners like my self for money

the church helps their own kind yet jesus says the poor will be with us and we are to make sure they dont go with out weather they are a widow or a single mother or singl women or poor person

we are to help thouse around us and not brag what we had for dinner what we have in our own homes and were we go on holidays

i sat in one church i did not eat for four days i did not go to the church for hand out or to have the members and the pastor feel sory for me i got up very fast and walked when i senced i was not welcome i even got this by the pastor who was white

we all bleed the same

look at what god did at the tower of babal what did he do ?

comments like this are not needed

you are in your rights to feel that way and i am not going to take your rights to express your self off you parker

my intention also was not to attack you

some one has to be wiling to be the bridge maker some one has to be willing to put the hand out

or do we just stick to our cultures and or own people with signs on our churches white people and rich people only welcome hear if you are a black person or ethnic person from other countrys you are not welcome

damo1