Racism

[Believer1997]

I am pretty sure that this is common accepted knowledge among the scientific community - creationists and evolutionists alike. I think you can find it on the answersingenesis.org site through a search.

I must be missing something - I found very little at this site, that addressed that comment that ALL races came from Africa.

Answers in Genesis is a good site but, for really in depth articles, I recommend Science Weekly or Science Daily. Like this one on the origins of man......we all really did originate in Africa.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70718140829.htm

I will indeed look at this site - but can anyone show me the Biblical Scripture that indicates ALL races originated in Africa (the OT map I saw showed only a tiny part of what may be considered modern day Africa) and also, where in the Bible does it say that "most" people descended from Africans? There is a poster here who said they have a "lot of scripture" on this and I'm not finding it... I'm not saying anyone is wrong - I'm just saying I cannot find what they are talking about here...

Actually - I read something early this morning and it really is confusing and contradicts the study in the two sites that were provided.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/12/science/human-origins.html

....But two studies published this week strongly disputed this scenario and reignited the vigorous and often acrimonious debate about where humans come from.

One study, done in Australia, used genetic evidence that suggested ``Mungo Man'' -- a 60,000-year-old skeleton -- is genetically unrelated to the Africans believed to have evolved 150,000 or so years ago and later to have settled the world.

Another, published in Friday's issue of the journal Science, analyzed physical features of early human skulls to suggest there must have been interbreeding among the migrating Africans and resident Neanderthals and even Homo erectus species of pre-humans.....

Well... it really doesn't matter - We ALL came from God. He MADE us... and we are all brothers and sisters....

[artsylady]

Do you think Speilburg should stop 'perpetrating' the Jewish history by making movies about the holocaust? Do you think we should tear down the memorials and museums and forget about it? Do you think it's time to stop telling the story?

It seems to me that in your view, whether or not we forget or remember astrocities committed against a group depends solely on how the race has recovered from the astrocities committed? Is this right?

[Rick-Parker]

Do you think Speilburg should stop 'perpetrating' the Jewish history by making movies about the holocaust? Do you think we should tear down the memorials and museums and forget about it? Do you think it's time to stop telling the story?

It seems to me that in your view, whether or not we forget or remember astrocities committed against a group depends solely on how the race has recovered from the astrocities committed? Is this right?

Nope

[artsylady]

They were sold into slavery by other tribes of blacks. Mostly muslims, btw.

Because there were white people around the word creating a market for black slavery. Are you blaming black Muslims and not White people?

The Jews were killed for what, 3-4 years by ONE small country, and the world came to their rescue.

There are quite a few errors in your analogy but before I refute them, I want to make it clear that all racism is an affront to God because ALL men are made in His image.

Jews have been persecuted since 2,000 BC.

Kings, Pharoahs, and dictators are STILL trying to wipe them out on a daily basis and have been since Sodom/Gomorrah. Where you get the 4-5 years baloney is beyond any imagination. There is no comparison to any race whatsoever.

I am talking about the holocaust and whether or not we want to remember or just forget that it occurred.

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The Jews were given a huge peice of land and were allowed to live and thrive in it peacefully among their own.

What planet are you from?

Jews weren't "given" anything by man and they have never been "allowed" to live peacefully anywhere. God gave them that land and held it for 2,000 years as a desolate waste. Jews began going back in the late 1800's and buying swamps and deserts from the Turkish owners. They worked tirelessly to restore that land to the beautiful breadbasket for Europe that it is today.

Your history knowledge could use a lot of help.

Believe me, I do know the history. Men used by God gave Israel back to the Jews after ww2. Just like men used by God fought to abolish slavery. Sure, it was all God's will but God used men to accomplish it. I don't know why you'd argue this point. Again, I was merely using the holocaust as an example. If you had read the thread you'd see that.

Some things we want to remember, others we want to forget. That's my point. Get it?

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When black people were given freedom, a good majority of the white people around them hated them and offered no condolences or sympathy.

who was it fighting for their freedom?

Notice the words "a good majority around them"? Especially in the south?

But do you see why the Jews may have recovered more quickly because of the rightful outpouring of support?

that simply is not true. Jews recover quickly historically because they don't depend on anyone else's sympathy or support.

So is te support and sympathy completely unneeded, unwanted, unappreciated?

[OneLight]

I have some statistics for those who like facts. Did you know that it is scientifically proven that all races came out of africa where the original name was the land of kemet or kamit which meant dark skin ? hmmmm... also did you know that in the near future the new race will be the mixed (white and black together- prasie God!) race and that minorities will be the white race? This means that one day we are going to be one big family!!! I wonder what racist people (white or black) think about that? lol

Funny how some science tries to always disprove scripture and people bite! Man was created by God in the Garden of Eden. Trace the boundaries in scripture and you will find that there is just a little of Africa included in the boundaries. I would be interested to see scripture that backs this statement you made.

God is the maker of science and nobody should be mad at that!!! Look at the whole of creation and u cant look at creation without science and if you really want to look at scripture and get technical about it I can show you a WHOLE lot of scriptures that prove that most of the people in there are of african descent heritage. just to name one the king of soloman had dark skin, moses wife was an Ethiopian (africa), but i didnt come here to get into that because that will make a lot of white people on here mad to tell the truth. you read the bible and tell me that God is not interested in science, math , languages, peoples, history, all the things we learn about in school? Everything God has done is backed up by science math ect. etc. ... Where do u think we learned all of this from? and why do u think that the scientists are always amazed at there findings?

and just so you know, I found that article also in the newspaper here where i live in a predominately white republican state. Now why would that be in a "white persons" news paper and not a "black persons news paper" because the world always make sure that white people know what is going on in the world.

God bless you,

kemetbeauty

Well, Kemet, please do provide your WHOLE lot of scripture. The origin of man is from the Middle East. Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Isreael, Egypt and Ethiopia. I may of missed the corner of some countries, but when you look at Genesis 2, you will find where the Garden of Eden was and where man was created. We can also take it another step further and discuss Noah and the flood. All of mankind was destroyed in the flood except for Noah and his family. They were Hebrew, not African. You should not believe everything you read in the newspaper. Believe scripture. I will be looking for your scripture in hopes that you do back up what you are saying. Otherwise, it is not reliable, just another opinion.

As for science, man uses science to do evil, including trying to prove His word wrong. Man also uses science for good. God gave us the ability to use our mind, this I will agree.

Peace,

Alan

[Guest yod]

but can anyone show me the Biblical Scripture that indicates ALL races originated in Africa (the OT map I saw showed only a tiny part of what may be considered modern day Africa) and also, where in the Bible does it say that "most" people descended from Africans?

if the Bible can be trusted, then we all came from the Garden of Eden which was located in modern day Iraq

[OneLight]

Adam was the first Man, and had red Skin

Hi James,

Where does scripture tell us this?

Peace,

Alan

[OneLight]

I am pretty sure that this is common accepted knowledge among the scientific community - creationists and evolutionists alike. I think you can find it on the answersingenesis.org site through a search.

I must be missing something - I found very little at this site, that addressed that comment that ALL races came from Africa.

Answers in Genesis is a good site but, for really in depth articles, I recommend Science Weekly or Science Daily. Like this one on the origins of man......we all really did originate in Africa.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70718140829.htm

Show me this in scripture please.

[Guest yod]

Because there were white people around the word creating a market for black slavery. Are you blaming black Muslims and not White people?

No. I'm saying race had nothing to do with it.

It was based on man ruling over other men. There have been slaves throughout history and many times they were of the same race as their oppressors. To make this a purely racial issue, is racism in itself.

I am talking about the holocaust and whether or not we want to remember or just forget that it occurred.

But you said that jews were persecuted 4-5 years and that is simply not factual.

Using that logic, it would be consistent for others to say that Africans only suffered a small time before the Civil War. Do you not see how incomplete a picture that paints?

Believe me, I do know the history.

I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt. If you do know the history and still mischaracterize it as you have, that makes confronting your revisionism a bit more serious.

Men used by God gave Israel back to the Jews after ww2.

Do you give Pharoah credit for the birth of Israel the first time? Yes, God used him by hardening his heart so God's glory would be seen by the world.

In the same way, many of the nations who voted at the UN in 1948 did so because God had answered the prayers of jews who suffered under a different kind of Pharoah.

Notice the words "a good majority around them"? Especially in the south?

It's a human condition to hide one's shame. It has nothing to do with race or location.

So is te support and sympathy completely unneeded, unwanted, unappreciated?

what support???

I'm saying it is UNNECESSARY for anyone in the entire world to get their value from another man's opinion, support, sympathy...whatever.

That is an excuse that will only keep them in a prison of envy.

[MorningGlory]

I am pretty sure that this is common accepted knowledge among the scientific community - creationists and evolutionists alike. I think you can find it on the answersingenesis.org site through a search.

I must be missing something - I found very little at this site, that addressed that comment that ALL races came from Africa.

Answers in Genesis is a good site but, for really in depth articles, I recommend Science Weekly or Science Daily. Like this one on the origins of man......we all really did originate in Africa.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70718140829.htm

Show me this in scripture please.

It's there, if you look. We all descended from the same two people who lived in the Garden of Eden at one point but were expelled from there. My theory is that they traveled to Egypt (which is in Africa) or thereabouts and started a family.