Female Circumcision

[sheya joie]

1 Corinthians 11 speaks of headship:

1Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

and

1Cor 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.

1Cor 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Hope that helps.

[BlindSeeker]

There is prophetic action involved here. One that I am reluctant to go into too much because of the strong reaction people get sometimes.

As the verses sheya joie has shared, "man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." This best communicates to us that or purpose of creation was for God. We see this also in the word of Paul in Ephesians -

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

By Divine Royal design God created woman to be the recipient of the man, that by his penetration and becoming "one flesh" with the imparting of seed life begins to grow in side her. Likewise, we too are "born again, not of corruptible seed [semen], but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

Likewise, it is when God come and sanctifies our fleshly temples and indwells us and imparts His word in our heart to quicken us and that He give us life.

Now consider what the scriptures say, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself." Christ was "cut off" for us. He died and "was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification" in that He would send His Comforter to dwell in us and quicken us and enable us to do and be what He intended us to do and be.

When it says He was "cut off" it is the same Hebrew word used in the following verses -

Ge 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant

*<karath>

with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Ex 4:25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off

*<karath>

the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.

Before I go and get in too deep I will simply summarize -

Male circumcision, reflects 2 things. First, (and least) the necessity of man exposing His heart to God in all things. Second (the greater), God exposing His heart to humanity when He made bare His arm to show His salvation to the world when He clothed Himself with the frailty of the flesh and was "cut off" that He might come and live in us and impart His seed of life to quicken us. That is how God made His covenant with us, His bride (the female).

* karath

a primitive root; to cut (off, down or asunder); by implication, to destroy or consume; specifically, to covenant (i.e. make an alliance or bargain, originally by cutting flesh and passing between the pieces):--be chewed, be con-(feder-)ate, covenant, cut (down, off), destroy, fail, feller, be freed, hew (down), make a league ((covenant)), X lose, perish, X utterly, X want.

[~candice~]

There is prophetic action involved here. One that I am reluctant to go into too much because of the strong reaction people get sometimes.

As the verses sheya joie has shared, "man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." This best communicates to us that or purpose of creation was for God. We see this also in the word of Paul in Ephesians -

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

By Divine Royal design God created woman to be the recipient of the man, that by his penetration and becoming "one flesh" with the imparting of seed life begins to grow in side her. Likewise, we too are "born again, not of corruptible seed [semen], but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

Likewise, it is when God come and sanctifies our fleshly temples and indwells us and imparts His word in our heart to quicken us and that He give us life.

Now consider what the scriptures say, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself." Christ was "cut off" for us. He died and "was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification" in that He would send His Comforter to dwell in us and quicken us and enable us to do and be what He intended us to do and be.

When it says He was "cut off" it is the same Hebrew word used in the following verses -

Ge 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant

*<karath>

with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Ex 4:25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off

*<karath>

the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.

Before I go and get in too deep I will simply summarize -

Male circumcision, reflects 2 things. First, (and least) the necessity of man exposing His heart to God in all things. Second (the greater), God exposing His heart to humanity when He made bare His arm to show His salvation to the world when He clothed Himself with the frailty of the flesh and was "cut off" that He might come and live in us and impart His seed of life to quicken us. That is how God made His covenant with us, His bride (the female).

* karath

a primitive root; to cut (off, down or asunder); by implication, to destroy or consume; specifically, to covenant (i.e. make an alliance or bargain, originally by cutting flesh and passing between the pieces):--be chewed, be con-(feder-)ate, covenant, cut (down, off), destroy, fail, feller, be freed, hew (down), make a league ((covenant)), X lose, perish, X utterly, X want.

Thank you very informative! It all makes a bit more sense now.

[Openly Curious]

Hello,

The mutilation of a womans body is "Not" circumcision at all and is far from it only the males were to be circumsied.

Circumcision was a sign of the children of Israel being set a side to the covenant God made all the way back to Abraham. All the men was to be circumsied on the 8th day from birth. This would in turn make all those born would be clean.

I think it is pretty plain to see why only the men could be circumcisied.

oc

[~candice~]

Hello,

The mutilation of a womans body is "Not" circumcision at all and is far from it only the males were to be circumsied.

Circumcision was a sign of the children of Israel being set a side to the covenant God made all the way back to Abraham. All the men was to be circumsied on the 8th day from birth. This would in turn make all those born would be clean.

I think it is pretty plain to see why only the men could be circumcisied.

oc

I realise it is mutilation. I really wish people could get over the physical side of this. I'm asking why the sign of the covenant is with men... how that covers women as well... and why women needed not make some kind of physical commitment.

[Openly Curious]

Hello,

The mutilation of a womans body is "Not" circumcision at all and is far from it only the males were to be circumsied.

Circumcision was a sign of the children of Israel being set a side to the covenant God made all the way back to Abraham. All the men was to be circumsied on the 8th day from birth. This would in turn make all those born would be clean.

I think it is pretty plain to see why only the men could be circumcisied.

oc

I realise it is mutilation. I really wish people could get over the physical side of this. I'm asking why the sign of the covenant is with men... how that covers women as well... and why women needed not make some kind of physical commitment.

I really appreciate you clarifying what your real question was perhaps it has something to do with the

man being the head of his household?

I am reminded of the words of Joshua when he said, "As for me and my house we will serve the Lord." The men were head of there household and when all the men were circumcsed then it would be that all the children of Israel would be clean at birth. God set up being circumcised to show a difference from his people to the other nations who were gentile nations.

Then men had to under go being circumsised but the women had to carry their seed through childbirth. So I would say the women were commited in following their husband. The women "did" make physical commitment. It is not a matter of of comparing men with women who was commanded who to do what but a matter of obeidence for the males to be circumsied on the eighth day of birth.

I think if one would look closely they would not be focusing on their on sex and they were getting more punishment than the woman as circumcision was to be done on the eighth day from birth and it is still being done from birth now a days but it is the parents choice so was it back then it was the parents responsibility to obey the covenant or not. But even Jesus was circumcised on the eight day so I am sure he didn't look at it as it was more of a physical commitment that women didn't have to do.

Luke 2:21-24--And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.........And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to the Lord;..........(As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to Lord;).......And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons........

Luke 2:34--And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary, his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a "sign" which shall be spoken against;............

You have to go back in the OT and read about the passover and you will see about the first male that openeth the womb as they were to be dedicated to the service of the Lord. Jesus also was a first born male and was a High Priest which is spoken of in the book of Hebrews

oc

[MorningGlory]

Hello,

The mutilation of a womans body is "Not" circumcision at all and is far from it only the males were to be circumsied.

Circumcision was a sign of the children of Israel being set a side to the covenant God made all the way back to Abraham. All the men was to be circumsied on the 8th day from birth. This would in turn make all those born would be clean.

I think it is pretty plain to see why only the men could be circumcisied.

oc

I realise it is mutilation. I really wish people could get over the physical side of this. I'm asking why the sign of the covenant is with men... how that covers women as well... and why women needed not make some kind of physical commitment.

Andy, I'm hopeful that your request will be honored; this doesn't seem to be the place for anatomy discussions.

[Fez]

I the parts of West, and sub Saharan Africa this practice has nothing at all to do with religion (but sometines has to do with witchcraft), but the main, sad, inexcusable reason is that it boils down to Patriarchal, feudal, male dominated society where women are subjugated and are treated as less than human.

[BlindSeeker]

There is prophetic action involved here. One that I am reluctant to go into too much because of the strong reaction people get sometimes.

As the verses sheya joie has shared, "man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." This best communicates to us that or purpose of creation was for God. We see this also in the word of Paul in Ephesians -

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

By Divine Royal design God created woman to be the recipient of the man, that by his penetration and becoming "one flesh" with the imparting of seed life begins to grow in side her. Likewise, we too are "born again, not of corruptible seed [semen], but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

Likewise, it is when God come and sanctifies our fleshly temples and indwells us and imparts His word in our heart to quicken us and that He give us life.

Now consider what the scriptures say, "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself." Christ was "cut off" for us. He died and "was delivered for our offenses, and was raised again for our justification" in that He would send His Comforter to dwell in us and quicken us and enable us to do and be what He intended us to do and be.

When it says He was "cut off" it is the same Hebrew word used in the following verses -

Ge 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant

*<karath>

with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Ex 4:25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off

*<karath>

the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.

Before I go and get in too deep I will simply summarize -

Male circumcision, reflects 2 things. First, (and least) the necessity of man exposing His heart to God in all things. Second (the greater), God exposing His heart to humanity when He made bare His arm to show His salvation to the world when He clothed Himself with the frailty of the flesh and was "cut off" that He might come and live in us and impart His seed of life to quicken us. That is how God made His covenant with us, His bride (the female).

* karath

a primitive root; to cut (off, down or asunder); by implication, to destroy or consume; specifically, to covenant (i.e. make an alliance or bargain, originally by cutting flesh and passing between the pieces):--be chewed, be con-(feder-)ate, covenant, cut (down, off), destroy, fail, feller, be freed, hew (down), make a league ((covenant)), X lose, perish, X utterly, X want.

Thank you very informative! It all makes a bit more sense now.

I am pleased you understood it with such brevity.