t.v. seduction, harry potter, etc....

[kross]

I do not think that there is one person in this world, except self righteous judgemental Christians, who would consider it evil (or even have the appearance of evil) for someone to go watch a Harry Potter movie.

I have to ask ... do you think if Christ was alive today that He would go watch this movie? Also, since when is following scripture self righteous to you? Have you ever considered that YOU may be strong enough to not follow what is portrayed as acceptable in Harry Potter, but many other are not???

1 Corinthians 8:9

But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak.

I do not think that CHRIST would waste HIS time on the frivolous activity of watching a movie. HE would be about HIS father's work. I do not think JESUS would have a single word of condemnation for anyone who watches this movie. I doubt it would matter to HIM what so ever. I expect that HE is watching us right now and thinking, is this the best they can do, talk about this stupid movie as if it even matters.

[nebula]

I expect that HE is watching us right now and thinking, is this the best they can do, talk about this stupid movie as if it even matters.

You know, that could apply to about 85% of the things we talk about on this Board!

[kross]

I expect that HE is watching us right now and thinking, is this the best they can do, talk about this stupid movie as if it even matters.

You know, that could apply to about 85% of the things we talk about on this Board!

Aye. But the other 15% can be pure gold.

[Axxman]

But the song/rap was full praise and worship with wisedom and truths. If we were to use the same music but add bad language and evil talk about killing people then the song becomes evil and represants evil/satan. We could do the same with any of the biblical tunes as well. But to depict in a book or a movie that which is full of evil as if it were good is yet another matter because it is the words that we hear and what we see that have an effect on us not

the movie

Must disagree with such a blanket statement. The bible talks about killing people...is it bad? Does it represent satan? No, it does not. Sometimes a story is just a story. Sometimes music, or books, or movies, and even tv are simply telling a story...just because the theme of that story is bad, or depicts the evil in men's hearts...does NOT make it evil. Now certainly. sometimes it does represent satan...but I am just addressing the blanket statement.

For example...lets say I'm watching a movie in which a man cusses. It doesn't bother me because that is a true representation of what men do. Men do cuss and it is realistic. It does not make a movie "evil" to show an accurate representation of how a man may act in a certain scenario. Likewise, it doesn't make the movie "good" (or Christian) if the man doesn't cuss either.

[Axxman]

Part of the problem is people assuming they know what Jesus would do 24/7/365. Nobody knows. I have NO IDEA if Jesus would stop to watch a movie, or read a book, or drive to the ocean for a day off. I DO KNOW that He doesn't mind when I do.

[OneLight]

I do not think that there is one person in this world, except self righteous judgemental Christians, who would consider it evil (or even have the appearance of evil) for someone to go watch a Harry Potter movie.

I have to ask ... do you think if Christ was alive today that He would go watch this movie? Also, since when is following scripture self righteous to you? Have you ever considered that YOU may be strong enough to not follow what is portrayed as acceptable in Harry Potter, but many other are not???

1 Corinthians 8:9

But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak.

I do not think that CHRIST would waste HIS time on the frivolous activity of watching a movie. HE would be about HIS father's work. I do not think JESUS would have a single word of condemnation for anyone who watches this movie. I doubt it would matter to HIM what so ever. I expect that HE is watching us right now and thinking, is this the best they can do, talk about this stupid movie as if it even matters.

So, you don't think that Jesus cares what we feed our spirit? How sad ...

[beblessed]

The scriptures you include with this warning sufficiently highlight God's principles we want to follow... The underlying problem in the last days are seducing spirits and it is no small warning in the scriptures for uncompromising remnant -- believers who want to serve the Lord without compromise to this world's standards: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devlis..." 1Tim 4:1 KJV. ... The methods of seduction are common to man but God is faithful to strengthen us in choices in line with His Word & will... I love the Lord because His commandments are not grievous -- " all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God ma be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto good works." 2 Tim 3:16,17. How I miss my homechurch in NYC but grateful to have relocated and followed the Lord to my homeland. Love this forum - love the Word and know in time I will have the fellowship I crave in this new land...

beblessed

[kross]

I do not think that there is one person in this world, except self righteous judgemental Christians, who would consider it evil (or even have the appearance of evil) for someone to go watch a Harry Potter movie.

I have to ask ... do you think if Christ was alive today that He would go watch this movie? Also, since when is following scripture self righteous to you? Have you ever considered that YOU may be strong enough to not follow what is portrayed as acceptable in Harry Potter, but many other are not???

1 Corinthians 8:9

But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to those who are weak.

I do not think that CHRIST would waste HIS time on the frivolous activity of watching a movie. HE would be about HIS father's work. I do not think JESUS would have a single word of condemnation for anyone who watches this movie. I doubt it would matter to HIM what so ever. I expect that HE is watching us right now and thinking, is this the best they can do, talk about this stupid movie as if it even matters.

So, you don't think that Jesus cares what we feed our spirit? How sad ...

I do not think JESUS thinks Hary Potter is evil. There are many things in movies and on tv that I will not watch because they do not appeal to me in the current nature of a HOLY SPIRIT filled blood bought sevant of the LIVING GOD. But, no. I do not think JESUS considers watching Harry Potter evil.

[Massorite]

But the song/rap was full praise and worship with wisdom and truths. If we were to use the same music but add bad language and evil talk about killing people then the song becomes evil and represents evil/satan. We could do the same with any of the biblical tunes as well. But to depict in a book or a movie that which is full of evil as if it were good is yet another matter because it is the words that we hear and what we see that have an effect on us not

the movie

Must disagree with such a blanket statement. The bible talks about killing people...is it bad? Does it represent satan? No, it does not. Sometimes a story is just a story. Sometimes music, or books, or movies, and even TV are simply telling a story...just because the theme of that story is bad, or depicts the evil in men's hearts...does NOT make it evil. Now certainly. sometimes it does represent satan...but I am just addressing the blanket statement.

For example...lets say I'm watching a movie in which a man cusses. It doesn't bother me because that is a true representation of what men do. Men do cuss and it is realistic. It does not make a movie "evil" to show an accurate representation of how a man may act in a certain scenario. Likewise, it doesn't make the movie "good" (or Christian) if the man doesn't cuss either.

I agree. A man using foul language shows the evil of men. I was once a great user of foul language myself. A man commiting murder also shows the evil of men. But would you agree that it is the evil thoughts of men that causes man to do evil things? However as per scripture man was not evil until he listened to satan and disobeyed God. So without the influences of satan there would be no evil within the mind of men.

Now as you have said the bible does talk about killing people and the words "Thou shall not kill" are some of the most misunderstood words in scripture. They are talking about pre-meditated murder and not killing somebody in defense of your family or country.

It is true that the bible talks about killing people and God even killed two men for dropping their seed on the ground. But the bible doesn't glorify killing somebody. There is actually some pretty sick stuff in the bible but none of it is glorified in any way. Movies like Harry Potter and Narnia glorify the use of witchcraft as if it were a good thing and it really doesn't matter what the story line is it is still witchcraft. And any time evil or just sin are glorified that in itself is evil. Think about it. Some of the best movies ever made were filled with foul language and even though the depiction was as it were real life. That which was sinful or evil was glorified.

Lets consider the latest Transformer movies. The first movie came out and I thought it was great. I love syfy. It was a good clean movie. If there were any foul language in the movie I don't remember. So I went to see the second movie and I was so disappointed. The syfy was great. It was the two dogs humping, and the robot humping a womans leg and the robots talking with foul language that disgusted me. It was still a GP rated movie and there were children there that never should have seen that stuff or heard their toys using foul language. What would you call that? Would you take Jesus to go see that movie.

Would you call that evil or just bad? My point is this. Everything that is bad is evil and all evil is of/from satan.

[Massorite]

Part of the problem is people assuming they know what Jesus would do 24/7/365. Nobody knows. I have NO IDEA if Jesus would stop to watch a movie, or read a book, or drive to the ocean for a day off. I DO KNOW that He doesn't mind when I do.

Why wouldn't we be able to know what Jesus would or would not do by what He teaches in scripture? Didn't He set Himself apart as an example for us to live by or fashion our lives by?

You are correct when you say that we are not able to know if Jesus would drive to the ocean for the day or go to a movie. But we can know by what He teaches us that He hates witchcraft and witchcraft glorified even more and for that reason we know that Jesus would never spend the money to go and see Harry Potter who glorifies His adversary by glorifying witchcraft as if it were good. Much less do that which His Father would disprove of. This is why we are told to stay away from all forms of witchcraft imagined or real. Harry Potter and Narnia are no exception. One can call witchcraft any which way they want but it is still witchcraft in the end.