Satan and perfectionism

[RevelationWriter]

~ A Prideful Person Is Continually Offended, Easily.

As nothing, nor anyone can be perfect enough for them.

It's not really perfection they seek, but service unto themselves to keep.

Making them the center of the universe for everyone around them. -

Edited October 19, 2010 by RevelationWriter

[other one]

Not being perfect is something that one should define. You can take that to things that you should have done that you didn't because you didn't think of it. Perfection is out of our reach. But I would say that striving for perfection is not a sin, nor is it from Satan though Satan will surely throw it up into your face when you do not reach perfection........ and I imagine that he also throws it up into Christs face when we fail also. "did you see what he just did...." That little phrase helps me to not sin when I am aware of it, for I know if I do, the dark one is there yelling for the whole heavenly host to hear...... "Did you see what he did?"

[7thseal]

I agree with MG and I believe that someone claiming they are perfect is nothing more than a lie from the pits of hell.

Depends on if they're looking ahead at the end results of God's work in us. Of course on our own there's nothing we can do to achieve perfection but its through Jesus Christ in which we are perfected. There's nothing wrong with claiming now what Jesus Christ has all given us through His work on the cross, its glorifying Him. But yes, claiming they are perfect without Him is a lie from Satan.

God is perfect and He has perfected me through the blood of Jesus Christ. Yet I still remain in this sinful body for a little while.

Romans 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

[Isaiah 6:8]

Wanting to be perfect is not a sin, nor a lie from Satan. Satan was not kicked out of Heaven because he was imperfect. He was perfect with free will and wanted to take over God's spot in pride. He was corrupted from perfection, as from what I understand of the word is that only perfect things are allowed in heaven.

Now the Lord wants us to be perfect. He will make us so, as long as we let him. Now that does not mean we will never make a mistake ever, that we will drive perfectly, or type perfectly etc. When he is speaking of this he means to kill our old nature and bring us into to our new nature perfectly. So that spiritually we are perfect. This is something that is imposable for us to do, so we need to let him work on us as he will make us perfect. We do need to work on it, with his help however, we don't just go okay God make me perfect and sit back and hope he does it.

Now as for Perfectionism. Yes there is a pride to this. Pride is sinful, matter of fact C.S. Lewis says that Pride is the worst sin. I would agree. So trying to be perfect, not from a desire to please God but out of shear pride, is sinful. I would say motive is the key, just like with a lot of other things. You can even be nice to your enemy's but if you do it, just to show them up, to show how much of a good person, does it make it a good thing?.

So to sum up. To be strive to be made perfect as He is perfect is not sinful. To try to look perfect on the outside in order to stroke your pride, is.

[enoob57]

I was doing some deep thinking today and Ive decided that along with pride, Satan is also about being perfect. I haven't fully formed my thoughts on this but does anyone think Im on to something here? I think a person's desire to be perfect is evil and of Satan. Im not sure if that was part of Lucifer's fall but I wouldnt be surprised....Comments? Thoughts?

Loved one it is good that you wish not to emulate satan... yet he is trying to be the creator when he is in fact the created!

When you try to pattern your life do it with the directives of our loving Father within His Word...

Matt 5:46-48

46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

NKJV

because this perfection come in the form of love we must allow the Holy Spirit to form it within us so that we may show forth the witness of The Son Who came and did love perfectly the whole world.... Jn 3:16 Love Steven