Homeschooling banned in Germany/Sweden to follow

[Matthitjah]

Quote OneNewsNow;

Sweden outlaws home schooling

Pete Chagnon - OneNewsNow - 8/19/2009 4:30:00 AMThe founder of the Home School Legal Defense Association says home schooling in Sweden will soon be banned altogether, with a few minor exceptions.

Mike Farris says that Sweden will ban all home schooling except for children with medical exemptions and foreign workers with the appropriate work visas.

"That's it. People who have religious convictions or are home schooling for religious reasons will not be given one of these very rare exemptions," he points out. "And so for all intents and purposes, home schooling is going to be banned in Sweden. They're following the German statute, following the German model."

In Germany, parents face stiff penalties if they are caught illegally home schooling their children. The Romeike family recently left Germany and is seeking asylum in the U.S. after facing stiff fines and the potential loss of custody rights for home schooling their children. The Home School Legal Defense Association is offering them legal help.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Defaul...px?id=648486%20

Peace,

Dave

[OneLight]

Don't be surprised when this happens here.

[georgedrw81]

Sweden is one of the few countries where the word socialism has been implemented.It is one of the few places where one can organise -at home,at church or building -classes to teach religion,culture,languages,traditioms. At school our children learn skills which the home cannot offer and the otherway around. However the failures dont come from the school but the start from home.If we as parents do our homework then no matter where our children go to school they will succeed.

Blessings

[MorningGlory]

Sweden is one of the few countries where the word socialism has been implemented.It is one of the few places where one can organise -at home,at church or building -classes to teach religion,culture,languages,traditioms. At school our children learn skills which the home cannot offer and the otherway around. However the failures dont come from the school but the start from home.If we as parents do our homework then no matter where our children go to school they will succeed.

Blessings

Somehow I'm just not getting what you mean. Sweden is one of the few places where one can organize classes??? I don't get it.

[nebula]

However the failures dont come from the school but the start from home.If we as parents do our homework then no matter where our children go to school they will succeed.

So by taking kids out of the home and placing them in schools will fix the failure of home?

But I disagree that the school doesn't matter in shaping our children. For example, I didn't know how biased my high school US history textbook was until I talked with someone about Teddy Roosevelt and Howard Taft (I was basing my opinion of them on what the textbook said about them). The other person pointed out why they disagreed with what I learned. That was the first time the idea of not taking my textbooks as authoritative truth entered my understanding. Let's see, that was 10th grade . . . so I was 15 years old when this conversation took place.

Now, while you may come back that students should be critically analyzing what we read anyway, it was not taught to us to do so. I mean, critically analyze a textbook?! We were taught from elementary school to believe what was taught us in school. Even if we debated issues, the textbook was still the "authority."

I can only imagine what other warped ideas were taught me that flew under my under-developed radar.

[mizzdy]

Now, while you may come back that students should be critically analyzing what we read anyway, it was not taught to us to do so. I mean, critically analyze a textbook?! We were taught from elementary school to believe what was taught us in school. Even if we debated issues, the textbook was still the "authority."

Did you or anyone here happen to catch the Fox special about what is actually in text books and how they are put together? Its a real eye opener for those who have no clue. Heres a link to the story.

http://hannity.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/09/0...pecial-tonight/

[Matthitjah]

Children in America are not taught to critically analyze the information that they are fed. That's why so many folks take what the Washington Post say's as rote.

[ellarose]

However the failures dont come from the school but the start from home.If we as parents do our homework then no matter where our children go to school they will succeed.

So by taking kids out of the home and placing them in schools will fix the failure of home?

But I disagree that the school doesn't matter in shaping our children. For example, I didn't know how biased my high school US history textbook was until I talked with someone about Teddy Roosevelt and Howard Taft (I was basing my opinion of them on what the textbook said about them). The other person pointed out why they disagreed with what I learned. That was the first time the idea of not taking my textbooks as authoritative truth entered my understanding. Let's see, that was 10th grade . . . so I was 15 years old when this conversation took place.

Now, while you may come back that students should be critically analyzing what we read anyway, it was not taught to us to do so. I mean, critically analyze a textbook?! We were taught from elementary school to believe what was taught us in school. Even if we debated issues, the textbook was still the "authority."

I can only imagine what other warped ideas were taught me that flew under my under-developed radar.

I completely agree! Year 10 was about the time I realised it was possible to have a flaw in a textbook! They are just taught as solid fact in schools (or at least in Australia) and there is no point debating, textbook has all the authority.

[Fez]

We live in a remote area, and I have a good friend that has homeschooled (his wife mostly), all three of their children right through to school leaving age. All passed national exams well, and all are well balanced people who are a joy to be around. (they are not christians).

I guess the only danger is that if the kids don't get enough interaction with other children and social skills could be affected.

And as for textbooks, I have found that that many of the kids that battle when going to university have not been taught how to think outside the box, and when their minds are stretched they are lost. Those that adapt, or have parents or an outside environment which has stretched their minds outside of school, usually are lateral thinkers and can solve problems, or suggest solutions that living inside the box does not allow one to do.

And talk about the danger of textbooks, was it Stalin (or Mao) who said "give me a child at 5, and he is mine for life". I come from a regime that invented apartheid. The history books I was taught from had rewritten history to a huge degree, so that as I grew in awareness it made me see that 99% of my country's history was unknown to me and for I while I was a product of that. Even our "christian" teaching at school was biased towards the state and it's idea of the truth. When I started reading "banned" books, and listening to "banned" protest songs, I started waking up to the truth.

There are still older people in my country who live under the cloud of what they were taught, and younger people who are still angry at the past injustice that was done, and this will take generations to weed out.

[ellarose]

We live in a remote area, and I have a good friend that has homeschooled (his wife mostly), all three of their children right through to school leaving age. All passed national exams well, and all are well balanced people who are a joy to be around. (they are not christians).

I guess the only danger is that if the kids don't get enough interaction with other children and social skills could be affected.

And as for textbooks, I have found that that many of the kids that battle when going to university have not been taught how to think outside the box, and when their minds are stretched they are lost. Those that adapt, or have parents or an outside environment which has stretched their minds outside of school, usually are lateral thinkers and can solve problems, or suggest solutions that living inside the box does not allow one to do.

And talk about the danger of textbooks, was it Stalin (or Mao) who said "give me a child at 5, and he is mine for life". I come from a regime that invented apartheid. The history books I was taught from had rewritten history to a huge degree, so that as I grew in awareness it made me see that 99% of my country's history was unknown to me and for I while I was a product of that. Even our "christian" teaching at school was biased towards the state and it's idea of the truth. When I started reading "banned" books, and listening to "banned" protest songs, I started waking up to the truth.

There are still older people in my country who live under the cloud of what they were taught, and younger people who are still angry at the past injustice that was done, and this will take generations to weed out.

Wow...