Are Demons Fallen Angels?

[kross]

After reading some of the replies, I want to add that the line of Seth was called godly because they were set apart for a pure spiritual use. Just because they did not stay that way doesn't negate the fact they were a "godly" line.

And again, at no place in Scipture is there any indication that angels, be it before or after the resurrection, could marry, were given in marriage, or had the ability to engage in sexual relations with each other. Again, it is God who created marriage, and ordained that sex is only for marriage. And as the Bible says clearly, angels do not marry, (and again, no where in the Bible does it ever say they ever did or could) there was no reason whatsoever for God to create angels with sexual organs.

As God is called male, and the Holy Spirit as well, are you led to believe they both have male sexual organs?

The reason they are called "male" in because the Bible uses anthropomorphisms - words used to describe God and angels in human like terms, for easier understanding and to show they are personal.

Please show me in scriptures where Seths line was set aside for spiritual use. Did you even read the link? Theres no where in scripture that says they don't either except in Gen. and to me its clear, if you see it differently then so be it. God created us to be together as in one just as He and His Son are one, do you think its any different for the angels? When the angels take on human form they eat right? gotta have a stomache in order for the food to go somewhere. We do not know the mind of God well enough to make that decision as if he created angels with sexual organs or not, heck no one can even agree if God has a body or not! Some idea of a godly line doesn't sit right with scriptures either since the only ones that He has or ever did set apart are the Israelites.

HE set Noah apart for a GODly work. Noah was fron Seth's line. INfact, all of Seth's line had some pretty impressive people who waled with GOD. To call Seth's line GODly, reflects how GOD interacted with them.

[gozreht]

I would say yes that demons were angels. Below is actually a study I did when someone asked me about satan being an angel. I said satan was a veryhigh angel that would have been "in charge" of others. The following may be helpful, this may be mean nothing to anyone but you are free to check it out either way. It comes in two parts.

Part 1. http://ideasoftimreligion.blogspot.com/200...nic-verses.html

Part 2. http://ideasoftimreligion.blogspot.com/200...es-part-ii.html

Edited December 6, 2009 by gozreht

[wyguy]

To be steight forward, there is no reason GOD created anything HE created other than HE wanted to create it that way. Maybe HE has a reason.

Well, to say angels were created with sexual organs for reproduction is pure speculation. If angels are reproducing themselves, does that mean those baby angels will one day grow up and have the choice to rebel against God as the others did?

God created MAN for the woman. And God commanded the MAN and woman to reproduce. At no place is that command given to angels, or for angels and humans.

To go by that reasoning, men can have sexual relations with female angels. But where are female angels mentioned in scripture?

And if angels were condemned for having sexual relations with human females, does that mean God created only male angels? All throughout scripture, angels are only called "male." And if so, that means God MEANT for angels to have sexual relations with human females. If so, why did He condemn them for it?

[other one]

To be steight forward, there is no reason GOD created anything HE created other than HE wanted to create it that way. Maybe HE has a reason.

Well, to say angels were created with sexual organs for reproduction is pure speculation. If angels are reproducing themselves, does that mean those baby angels will one day grow up and have the choice to rebel against God as the others did?

God created MAN for the woman. And God commanded the MAN and woman to reproduce. At no place is that command given to angels, or for angels and humans.

To go by that reasoning, men can have sexual relations with female angels. But where are female angels mentioned in scripture?

And if angels were condemned for having sexual relations with human females, does that mean God created only male angels? All throughout scripture, angels are only called "male." And if so, that means God MEANT for angels to have sexual relations with human females. If so, why did He condemn them for it?

Probably for the same reason he condemns us for having sexual realtions with the same sex or for multiple partners for that matter.

I'll ask him when we get to heaven... and let you know. Look me up and we'll go ask him together...

[Hawkins]

In my study, fallen angels are relative large in size. They can cast influence to human souls. Yet they don't seem to be allowed to enter directly into our realm (to do physical damages and etc.). They can also enslave human souls in Hades. Those enslaved directly are referred to as demons or evil spirits.

Demons/evil spirits demand for human bodies as their houses because once upon a time they were humans. That's why the demon possession, that is, they live in your house.

They are enslaved and acquired specialties from the fallen angels, and they will approach you when invited. Demons can thus be invited through various media such as demon board game, psychics and so on (alot). Once invited, they will try to communicate with you in various forms, including demon possession.

Edited December 7, 2009 by Hawkins

[Openly Curious]

Some of us simply disagree with your view of Genesis Chapter Six.

Seth was the son of Adam, not the son of God.

I agree Seth was from the sons of Adam and not from the unholy unions when the angels slept with the daughters of men.

Another reason is that the whole human race was destroyed in the floods all the animals and such only those that were inside the ark was saved. There was only 8 souls that was saved in the ark. Noah was a righteous man who didn't give himself to the unrighteousness of his day.

Now God took Noah and his relatives to start the human race all over again. This being the case the Seth line was destroyed in the flood as all the others. The new line would be started by Noah and it was a righteous lineage that God used to replenish the earth once again as God destroyed all in the flood as only 8 souls were saved.

OC

[kross]

To be steight forward, there is no reason GOD created anything HE created other than HE wanted to create it that way. Maybe HE has a reason.

Well, to say angels were created with sexual organs for reproduction is pure speculation. If angels are reproducing themselves, does that mean those baby angels will one day grow up and have the choice to rebel against God as the others did?

God created MAN for the woman. And God commanded the MAN and woman to reproduce. At no place is that command given to angels, or for angels and humans.

To go by that reasoning, men can have sexual relations with female angels. But where are female angels mentioned in scripture?

And if angels were condemned for having sexual relations with human females, does that mean God created only male angels? All throughout scripture, angels are only called "male." And if so, that means God MEANT for angels to have sexual relations with human females. If so, why did He condemn them for it?

It's all pure speculation. The only remote proofs there are one way or another is the pasage from Gen and the writings in the extra-biblical scriptures.

Since I am certain Gen 6 is speaking of angels, I accept the rest.

[kross]

Some of us simply disagree with your view of Genesis Chapter Six.

Seth was the son of Adam, not the son of God.

I agree Seth was from the sons of Adam and not from the unholy unions when the angels slept with the daughters of men.

Another reason is that the whole human race was destroyed in the floods all the animals and such only those that were inside the ark was saved. There was only 8 souls that was saved in the ark. Noah was a righteous man who didn't give himself to the unrighteousness of his day.

Now God took Noah and his relatives to start the human race all over again. This being the case the Seth line was destroyed in the flood as all the others. The new line would be started by Noah and it was a righteous lineage that God used to replenish the earth once again as God destroyed all in the flood as only 8 souls were saved.

OC

Noeh was of the line of Seth. JESUS' lineage is tracked back to Adam, through Seth

[exrockstar]

In my study, fallen angels are relative large in size. They can cast influence to human souls. Yet they don't seem to be allowed to enter directly into our realm (to do physical damages and etc.). They can also enslave human souls in Hades. Those enslaved directly are referred to as demons or evil spirits.

Demons/evil spirits demand for human bodies as their houses because once upon a time they were humans. That's why the demon possession, that is, they live in your house.

They are enslaved and acquired specialties from the fallen angels, and they will approach you when invited. Demons can thus be invited through various media such as demon board game, psychics and so on (alot). Once invited, they will try to communicate with you in various forms, including demon possession.

wow. you sure are opening a can of worms. People here like closed minded conversations. You are presenting is a "new race" to those that are only used to two (angels and humans).

I actually think it's silly to accept that angels can possess animals.

[exrockstar]

Noeh was of the line of Seth. JESUS' lineage is tracked back to Adam, through Seth

who cares if Jesus' lineage is from Seth? Is that important?

All those before the flood were from Adam.

why the Seth obsession?