Are Demons Fallen Angels?

[other one]

What are the 1/3 of angels cast out of heaven with Satan doing if they are not now demons following the orders of him?

You are assuming that they have already been kicked out of heaven....... I have some friends that can discuss that subject with you for days at a time as to whether or not this has happened or is to happen as written in Revelation chapter 12. Many people that I interface with consider Satan still having access to heaven to accuse us of every little thing that we do wrong.

[Hawkins]

What are the 1/3 of angels cast out of heaven with Satan doing if they are not now demons following the orders of him?

You are assuming that they have already been kicked out of heaven....... I have some friends that can discuss that subject with you for days at a time as to whether or not this has happened or is to happen as written in Revelation chapter 12. Many people that I interface with consider Satan still having access to heaven to accuse us of every little thing that we do wrong.

The serpent is biting the dust on earth in the Hades side. He's collecting evidence about those sinners because he's so keen on keeping their souls with him. He will accuss them of in the final judgment, such that those without being saved by Jesus' blood will stay with him.

[wyguy]

What are the 1/3 of angels cast out of heaven with Satan doing if they are not now demons following the orders of him?

You are assuming that they have already been kicked out of heaven....... I have some friends that can discuss that subject with you for days at a time as to whether or not this has happened or is to happen as written in Revelation chapter 12. Many people that I interface with consider Satan still having access to heaven to accuse us of every little thing that we do wrong.

From what I gather, Satan does still have access to heaven, (Job 1:6).

[AnotherTraveler]

The problem with either side of opinions relating to angels / fallen angels ect is that we have very little information. There are suggestions, things we might imply from scriptures written, but not enough to really make any kind of case one way or the other.

Plus, it doesn't matter in the overall scope of salvation. We have the information we need to make heaven, and that is enough.

[JCISGD]

What are the 1/3 of angels cast out of heaven with Satan doing if they are not now demons following the orders of him?

You are assuming that they have already been kicked out of heaven....... I have some friends that can discuss that subject with you for days at a time as to whether or not this has happened or is to happen as written in Revelation chapter 12. Many people that I interface with consider Satan still having access to heaven to accuse us of every little thing that we do wrong.

I just read the bible as it is unless there is reason to believe it is not literal. The bible says Satan took one third with him, and the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth. I dont go in for the opinions of others.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

It is evident from Scripture that satan has a kingdom and that the kingdom that he does have consists of anyone in league with him. The fallen angels remain in league with him as well as rebellious humans.

satan has been called a liar and the chief of the demons by the Lord Himself;

Mt

[exrockstar]

The angels who fell do not remain angels. They have left their first estate.

Jude

[Matthitjah]

The angels who fell do not remain angels. They have left their first estate.

Jude

[exrockstar]

If your going to assert that this interpretation is a "big stretch" then your going to have provide proof in the Word and find thought that agree's with your own. The Word tells us not to build our houses upon shifting sand dear brother. That's why I don't make bold assertions, rather I examine every thought and meditation carefully, then I cast off those things that aren't the built upon the Rock.

Peace,

Dave

well, if God "sent them to hell,[a] putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment (2 Pet 2:4)"

then they're not really being "held" if we don't take this scripture literally. And if we say that God "held" the angels that sinned, and conclude that is was 1/3, then their shouldnt be

any fallen angels roaming around.

im at work but i'll provide some scripture soon.

[Bold Believer]

The word Nephilim means tyrants. It's another one of those words/terms which really isn't all that special, but bad theologians make it special, like 'great tribulation.' Angels are neuter beings, incapable of reproduction.

Demons are angels which follow Satan, doing his desires and giving seeming credence to false gods. It is written that all the gods of the Gentiles are demons. It is the demonic spirits that perform the false miracles of these no-gods-at-all.

Like Satan himself, these angels were created to their purpose. They were never holy. They were eventually cast out of heaven, but they serve a purpose in the plan of God.

Brown-Driver-Brigg's

נפל / נפיל

nephı̂yl / nephil

BDB Definition:

1) giants, the Nephilim

Part of Speech: noun masculine

Strongs

H5303

נפל נפיל

nephı̂yl nephil

nef-eel', nef-eel'

From H5307; properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant: - giant.

The only other occurrance for this word is in Numbers 13:33 which is refering to the sons of Anak which are the giants also. So if these Nephilim were just tyrants why use this particular word? and only for those in Gen. 6? Egypt was described as a tyrant, Herod was too but the writers of the scriptures didn't use nephilim. Honestly no one knows what the angels are capable of do we? We don't know if they can reproduce do we, scripture doesn't say. We only know that there is no marriage after the resurrection.

You apparently didn't read the definition you posted. A Nephil is a tyrant. I can give modern day examples of nephlim:

Benito Mussolini

Adolf Hitler

Hideki Tojo

Saddam Hussein

Qusay and Ouday Hussein (Saddam's sons)

Osama bin Laden

Crips

Bloods

Hell Angels

various street gangs of renown

various motorcycle gangs of renown

Ted Bundy

various other serial killers of renown

The Taliban

Islamic terrorists

They are giants at doing evil. Have you never heard the expression in English "He was a giant of a man"? It does not refer to their physical stature necessarily, but to their deeds (in the case of the Biblical Nephilim, evil deeds).

To the question of why angels are always portrayed as male, it's because males are the figure of authority. Angels are spirits and therefore neuter sexually. Spirits do not make babies.