this book - this prophecy

[OneLight]

I have not really given this much thought for years, but it has recently stuck in my mind. This is the scripture that I will be referring to,

Revelation 22:18-19

(For) I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add (may God add) to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away (may God take away) his part from the Book (Tree) of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

On many occasions, I have watched people use these verses to indicate that "this book" and "this prophecy" means what we now have as the bible. Yet, when I look into the original Greek, it points directly to "this scroll", meaning only the Book of Revelation.

For those who would like to see what I am referring to when I say "in the Greek", here is an online pdf. Scroll down to the bottom of page 4 and the top of page 5 to see verses 18 and 19.

No matter how it is worded, to me it speaks of only Revelation. What are your thoughts and why do you see this the way you do?

[Fez]

At the time of writing, the bible had not yet been compiled into the "book" we know today. I think the scripture refers to Revelations only.

Strong....

G975

βιβλίον

biblion

bib-lee'-on

A diminutive of G976; a roll: - bill, book, scroll, writing.

(KJV)

[MorningGlory]

At the time of writing, the bible had not yet been compiled into the "book" we know today. I think the scripture refers to Revelations only.

Strong....

G975

βιβλίον

biblion

bib-lee'-on

A diminutive of G976; a roll: - bill, book, scroll, writing.

(KJV)

I agree.

[OneLight]

This has been my stance for a very long time, but as I said, I have seen so many who think it means the bible. This is how they were taught and this is what they believe.

[Guest]

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17

Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? Matthew 15:3

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18-19

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.... No matter how it is worded, to me it speaks of only Revelation ....

Yes

no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:20

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.... What are your thoughts and why do you see this the way you do? ....

Yes

What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. Deuteronomy 12:32

Yes

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Proverbs 30:5-6

Yes

The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6-7

Forever

For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven. Psalm 119:89

And Ever Amen!

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 3:15

[Joshua-777]

I believe it refers to the prophecy. One reason is the direct continuation of things mentioned in Danial, as far as the revived Roman empire, the Antichrist, and the coming of the Lord. Revelation and Danial cross reference like they where stitched together. Another reason is the meaning of Revelation, it means the "revealing" of Jesus Christ. From beginning to the end. Revealing the end conclusion to the cannon of the scripture. I believe it refers to the prophecy from beginning to the end. Not just the book of Revelation, but the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" which means the revealing of Jesus Christ.

[OneLight]

I believe it refers to the prophecy. One reason is the direct continuation of things mentioned in Danial, as far as the revived Roman empire, the Antichrist, and the coming of the Lord. Revelation and Danial cross reference like they where stitched together. Another reason is the meaning of Revelation, it means the "revealing" of Jesus Christ. From beginning to the end. Revealing the end conclusion to the cannon of the scripture. I believe it refers to the prophecy from beginning to the end. Not just the book of Revelation, but the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" which means the revealing of Jesus Christ.

God did not need any other book to speak through John, even though His words do back each other up. John also did not know that his letter would be seen as scripture, but was meant to be a prophecy for the churches listed in Revelation 1-3, to the churches in Asia.

Another thing to consider, in Revelation 1:3, we read "Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near." Just about everyone who reads these words state that it is meant specifically for this prophecy, so how can it be seen both ways?

[georgedrw81]

The words 'logon bibloy' means from this book or the mentioned book. The word logon is more closesly related to refered.

Blessings

[BlindSeeker]

Certainly it refers to the prophecy in which it is contained. But that doesn't negate the precept of righteousness and judgment toward those who would add unto God's word or subtract there from. This precept is witness in two other places in Holy Writ and therefore stand certain that God will not hold them guiltless who do such.

De 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Jer 26:2 Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD'S house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD'S house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word:

When scripture give 2 or 3 witnesses . . . take heed how you hear.

[Guest yod]

No matter how it is worded, to me it speaks of only Revelation. What are your thoughts and why do you see this the way you do?

I agree that this particular passage is referring to Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ