Why is this life valuable to the Lord?

[Fez]

For Paul , living was Christ (i.e. he was connected to Christ and bearing fruit for Him).

So what changes when we die?

Nebula what's up?

There are dozens of scriptures that allude to what changes when we die. It is actually why we live in Christ, so that eventually we live with Christ?

Your questions are disturbing me. Are you Ok?

[nebula]

For Paul , living was Christ (i.e. he was connected to Christ and bearing fruit for Him).

So what changes when we die?

Nebula what's up?

There are dozens of scriptures that allude to what changes when we die. It is actually why we live in Christ, so that eventually we live with Christ?

Your questions are disturbing me. Are you Ok?

Thanks - I'm OK - it's nothing new that's going on . . . I just thought I'd look for input. This has been on my heart and mind for a long time. The suicide struggle was just how the pondering got started, and I only mentioned it to try to express what I mean by my questions. I'm not sure I'm digging it out right, though.

But maybe consider this. Have you seen posts on this Board by Christians who struggle with suicide - have you noticed they can't separate the desire to be with the Lord from the desire to escape the pain of this life?

"Too die is gain" - so let me gain! Right?

So, what if there is something more to this life than just getting saved and getting other people saved? Isn't there more?

Isn't there?

So what is that "more"?

[nebula]

OK, but putting this together with what makes this life valuable to the Lord. . . ?

again, what makes you think this life is valuable to the Lord?

i don't think it is valuable to Him.

He created it, didn't He?

[enoob57]

OK, but putting this together with what makes this life valuable to the Lord. . . ?

again, what makes you think this life is valuable to the Lord?

i don't think it is valuable to Him.

It's value is seen in creation account before sin entered!

Gen 1:4

Gen 1:10

Gen 1:12

Gen 1:18

Gen 1:21

Gen 1:25

Gen 1:31

All these "God saw that it was good" is upon also His foreknowledge of sin entering later into the world by our choice! So now the world and our bodies (all material essence) is set aside for the destruction of fire right before the eternal beginning of A New Earth and A New Heaven where in righteousness dwells for the unbounded of God. So the value of this material essence and that goes as far as the Lord has been stretching it, (heavens), out since the beginning of creation exists only for the fulfillment of His Word (rapture, tribulation, millennial kingdom and judgment) then tears and sorrow wiped away from our beings by The Father who loves us as much as His own Son even His own self. For that is the testimony of the Cross! This truth our eternal heritage and my personal Joy that exceeds all fears, all doubts, for it is the perfected Love kept in safety by The Father and Son and Spirit who has given it as the pledge of long ago with Abram! Gen 15 understanding made complete Heb 6:13-19 Love Steven

[other one]

life pretty much sucks and i cant see much value in it at all.

I would beg to disagree........ maybe we need to talk. One of us is doing something wrong......

[enoob57]

keep doing what you're doing. pretty sure you're not the one doing something wrong. me? i don't think i'm doing wrong, i am wrong.

What is happening in your life that has turned your life so sour to the Love of God?

[other one]

keep doing what you're doing. pretty sure you're not the one doing something wrong. me? i don't think i'm doing wrong, i am wrong.

Maybe it's because I'm 62 and have been through much. Maybe my expectations are just a little lower than yours. At least three times in my life, I should have died. All three times God interfered, so I have to think that there is something that I have to do.

We've been poor, we've been broke and we've been sick...... but I refuse to let this world keep me from being happy, no matter what of those conditions we have to exist in.

It would be interesting to know why life is so bad for you. Don't know if there are any words that might make a difference, bit it's hard for me to not understand. It's hard to know if anything could/would help, but I find it hard not to ask.

So I would just ask, what is it that has you down, and how long has it been that way.

[Openly Curious]

Laying down your life is the greatest love because your life has such value?

That's a good thought!

OK, but why does my or anyone's life on this earth have such value?

Because we have been bought with a price. Although not every one has accepted salvation even though God the Father sent his only begotten son into this world to die on a cross for everyone past and present who will accept Jesus as their Lord. Christ Jesus was that ransom price, payed for by his own body and blood as he bought us back and now our bodies are not our own.

1Corinthians 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which you have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Our value is in God who changed us from what we used to be, into

(whole different creation) a new creature. Our value is always in God our Maker for we are His.

Matthew 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a "ransom" for many.

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a "ransom" for all, to be testified in due time.

[Guest]

Give ear to my words, O LORD, consider my meditation.

Hearken unto the voice of my cry, my King, and my God: for unto thee will I pray.

My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up. Psalms 5:1-3

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....OK, but why does my or anyone's life on this earth have such value?....

Because Of Him

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:

for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure

they are and were created. Revelation 4:11

[Guest]

....life pretty much sucks and i cant see much value in it at all....

Tears

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. John 14:8

Praying!

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Be Blessed Beloved Daughter Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Revelation 21:4-5