Burn a Qu'ran Day...

[MorningGlory]

One of the points being made is that concerning the word 'Allah'...however much any one destests it, or tries to negate it by using a small 'a', it does not get away from the fact that the word in modern usage today is not a synonym for Satan, but simply translates as G-d.

Let's see if I can explain the difference. I'm aware that the two words are referring to the same deity among a lot of Arab Christians. Apparently you don't get it either; I am using 'allah' in the historical sense, going back to it's origins, when satan became the islamic 'god'. The two words refer to the same being.

Unfortunately there is sometimes found such hatred for Islam within Christian circles (often evidenced by outright ignorance that wants to have its own way) that it goes beyond the claims of hating the sin, but loving the sinner, and promotes a harsh, brash, uncaring, defiant type of Christianity that is barely indistinguishable from the more extreme elements of those in other camps.

If you can't distinguish between the two then you are very naive. No one mentioned hatred for islam....except all of you muslim apologists. If you want to call someone ignorant just say it outright; don't beat around the bush. Btw, 'ignorant' is defined as 'unknowing'. Have YOU read the Qu'ran?

[MorningGlory]

Not according to Nebula's criteria. She said "The Koran says that "God has no son." So how can you say they worship the same God as us?"

The Talmud says that God has no son, so by the above criteria the Jews do not believe in the same God as Christians.

Would you be able to pull up the exact quote, and where in the Talmud it says that?

Thanks

Neb, come on. You know that Jews deny that Christ is the son of God.

The point is, we would not burn the Talmud. Neither should we hold book burnings for the Qu'ran.

Thanks, KatyAnn, for actually posting on THE TOPIC instead of moaning and wailing about how mean and ignorant other people are.

[MorningGlory]

Here's what I think. If you have occult materials then get rid of them. Burning them is an option. Those people in Acts really got moved by the Spirit and did a good thing. But having a Qu'ran burning day incites violence. It's pointless because the Muslims already know how we feel. We need to handle the truth better than that.

A Qu'ran burning day. Who thought of that one, the Shriners?

It was actually the Dove World Outreach, a nondenominational church in Florida. It IS pointless.

[MorningGlory]

Thanks, KatyAnn, for actually posting on THE TOPIC instead of moaning and wailing about how mean and ignorant other people are.

you mean the people supporting the burning of books?

No. I mean the ones wringing their hands and hiding under their computer desks because the muslims might get them.

[other one]

One of the points being made is that concerning the word 'Allah'...however much any one destests it, or tries to negate it by using a small 'a', it does not get away from the fact that the word in modern usage today is not a synonym for Satan, but simply translates as G-d.

Let's see if I can explain the difference. I'm aware that the two words are referring to the same deity among a lot of Arab Christians. Apparently you don't get it either; I am using 'allah' in the historical sense, going back to it's origins, when satan became the islamic 'god'. The two words refer to the same being.

Unfortunately there is sometimes found such hatred for Islam within Christian circles (often evidenced by outright ignorance that wants to have its own way) that it goes beyond the claims of hating the sin, but loving the sinner, and promotes a harsh, brash, uncaring, defiant type of Christianity that is barely indistinguishable from the more extreme elements of those in other camps.

If you can't distinguish between the two then you are very naive. No one mentioned hatred for islam....except all of you muslim apologists. If you want to call someone ignorant just say it outright; don't beat around the bush. Btw, 'ignorant' is defined as 'unknowing'. Have YOU read the Qu'ran?

Who here is a muslim apologist?

[lekh l'kha]

Does anyone remember the Danish cartoon incident? Burn a Qu'ran Day would make that look like nothing. It would be pouring gasoline on a fire that is already out of control. I've watched Youtube videos about this and the Southern gentleman from Dove World Outreach Center appears to be completely off his rocker. BTW, the Dove World Outreach Center? As in holy dove? As in Holy Spirit?

You're really afraid of them aren't you? They will not prevail; unless they repent God will destroy them....all of them.

I'm afraid of all the surprise revenge attacks against defenceless Christian communities in India and Nigeria and Sudan and Malaysia and Pakistan and Somalia and Ethiopia and ..... (because it WILL happen as a result of the burning of the Qur'an by a Christian church in the U.S.A who have the U.S police to rely on for their protection).

But actually what I really would like is to be able to write all my sins in books and send it to this Dove church (or whatever it's called) and ask them to burn them. But I believe that my sins were written in a book and nailed to a Man who in turn was nailed to wood. Much as I'd like to do unto others as others would (and do) unto me and my Savior, I don't think it would serve any good purpose, and my Savior said I should do unto others NOT what they would do unto me, but what I would HAVE THEM do unto me.

[lekh l'kha]

Actually the best way to burn a Qur'an a day is to save one Muslim a day. One saved Muslim = 1 useless Qur'an.

[nebula]

Not according to Nebula's criteria. She said "The Koran says that "God has no son." So how can you say they worship the same God as us?"

The Talmud says that God has no son, so by the above criteria the Jews do not believe in the same God as Christians.

Would you be able to pull up the exact quote, and where in the Talmud it says that?

Thanks

Neb, come on. You know that Jews deny that Christ is the son of God.

Yes, but "the Jews denying Jesus as the Son of God" is different from the words being written out in their religious text, "God has no son."

The Koran has this written.

Does the Talmud? If so, I'd like to see the quote. That's all.

The point is, we would not burn the Talmud. Neither should we hold book burnings for the Qu'ran.

I do agree with this.

A Muslim-turned-to-Jesus deciding to burn his or her own book is one thing. A church burning the books for the sake of a statement is a very bad idea.

[nebula]

Actually the best way to burn a Qur'an a day is to save one Muslim a day. One saved Muslim = 1 useless Qur'an.

Good one!

[MorningGlory]

One of the points being made is that concerning the word 'Allah'...however much any one destests it, or tries to negate it by using a small 'a', it does not get away from the fact that the word in modern usage today is not a synonym for Satan, but simply translates as G-d.

Let's see if I can explain the difference. I'm aware that the two words are referring to the same deity among a lot of Arab Christians. Apparently you don't get it either; I am using 'allah' in the historical sense, going back to it's origins, when satan became the islamic 'god'. The two words refer to the same being.

Unfortunately there is sometimes found such hatred for Islam within Christian circles (often evidenced by outright ignorance that wants to have its own way) that it goes beyond the claims of hating the sin, but loving the sinner, and promotes a harsh, brash, uncaring, defiant type of Christianity that is barely indistinguishable from the more extreme elements of those in other camps.

If you can't distinguish between the two then you are very naive. No one mentioned hatred for islam....except all of you muslim apologists. If you want to call someone ignorant just say it outright; don't beat around the bush. Btw, 'ignorant' is defined as 'unknowing'. Have YOU read the Qu'ran?

Who here is a muslim apologist?

Have you READ any of the posts in this thread? A few of them definitely are; you just have to read them.