Burn a Qu'ran Day...

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Universalism.

OK, at least I know where you are coming from now.

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I'm saying that I don't know how God views it.

Well, you should seek Him out on this.

[MorningGlory]

James 1:27 "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."

Matthew 7:12 "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

Luke 6:31 "Do to others as you would have them do to you."

Romans 2:13-15 "For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)"

I don't buy into collective salvation or damnation for any religion. Islam, like any other religion, can be used for both good and evil. I think when a Muslim does something good out of their own heart God sees it and acknowledges it, just like any other person, no matter what their particular beliefs are. When a Muslim, or anyone else, does something evil God too sees it and acts accordingly. I do not know what God thinks of Islam, I just know that the call of God is a call to love, and I don't know how burning a holy book and getting people angry and possibly violent that will do nothing but build more walls between people is a way to love.

Wow; I see now where you're coming from. Anyone who does not accept the Son, the Resurrection and the one True God is NOT saved and is doomed. What does that tell you about islam? I take it you're not Christian yourself?

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I take it you're not Christian yourself?

No, he's a Christian Universalist - which does not have the concept of, "No man comes to the Father except through me," nor "Thou shall have no other gods before me."

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It would be fascinating to lock this thread and make everyone involved read both the Koran and the Talmud then come back and unlock the thread and see how the conversation changes.

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It would be fascinating to lock this thread and make everyone involved read both the Koran and the Talmud then come back and unlock the thread and see how the conversation changes.

I think it would be a great social experiment, O.O.. Of course, no one could be forced to read either one, but it would be great if they did so voluntarily. I haven't read the Talmud myself.

[MorningGlory]

No, he's a Christian Universalist - which does not have the concept of, "No man comes to the Father except through me," nor "Thou shall have no other gods before me."

Quite the contrary. Christian unversalists accept that there is only one God, although some accept Jesus as the only way, others do not. I am of the type that accepts Jesus as the only way to salvation.

Then you should understand that islam, hinduism, buddhism, shintoism, scientology, whatever are false.....God does not accept the adherents to these 'religions'. They are doomed, unless they repent. If you believe that Jesus is the only way why did you argue against damnation for islam a few posts back?

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I have practically been called a liar for telling the truth about the Talmud. Funny how everyone here upholds the Talmud...which is seriously antiChristian, yet slams the Qu'ran.

All I asked for was a quote.

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No, he's a Christian Universalist - which does not have the concept of, "No man comes to the Father except through me," nor "Thou shall have no other gods before me."

Quite the contrary. Christian unversalists accept that there is only one God, although some accept Jesus as the only way, others do not.

Which is what I said.

I am of the type that accepts Jesus as the only way to salvation.

How is this not contradictory to what you stated before?

I don't buy into collective salvation or damnation for any religion. Islam, like any other religion, can be used for both good and evil. I think when a Muslim does something good out of their own heart God sees it and acknowledges it, just like any other person, no matter what their particular beliefs are. When a Muslim, or anyone else, does something evil God too sees it and acts accordingly.

I do not understand.

[Fez]

No, he's a Christian Universalist - which does not have the concept of, "No man comes to the Father except through me," nor "Thou shall have no other gods before me."

Quite the contrary. Christian unversalists accept that there is only one God, although some accept Jesus as the only way, others do not.

Which is what I said.

I am of the type that accepts Jesus as the only way to salvation.

How is this not contradictory to what you stated before?

I don't buy into collective salvation or damnation for any religion. Islam, like any other religion, can be used for both good and evil. I think when a Muslim does something good out of their own heart God sees it and acknowledges it, just like any other person, no matter what their particular beliefs are. When a Muslim, or anyone else, does something evil God too sees it and acts accordingly.

I do not understand.

I too am confused....