God's power of sign's and wonders

[ayin jade]

I apologize if my passion sounds like grumbling. I feel that the Christians in the US are not using the the GOD given gifts provided by Jesus at the cross. I see documentaries and Christian shows of the power of God ( deaf ears opened, blind eyes opened, raising of the dead) in places like China, Africa. and other countries. It seems in America we are spiritually dead. Our spirituality goes as far as church and this forum. How many of us step out in faith on the streets and prayed healing over someone? Satan deceives us into thinking that the powers are for apostles, that it takes a particular gift. If you were to walk down the street and pray for some one to be healed and God healed that person wouldn't he be more responsive to hear the Gospel? Isn't that how the multitudes came to Jesus.

We have to open our spiritual eyes and step out of our religious box. Hear some good faith teachings! The word faith is through out the bible all we have to do is step out.

2 Kings 6:15-17 (New King James Version)

¹⁵ And when the servant of the man of God arose early and went out, there was an army, surrounding the city with horses and chariots. And his servant said to him,

[OneLight]

Onelight I quote "Tell that to those who are still crippled but love and trust God with all their heart, soul mind and strength." That sounds like fear to me. Those are the same fears (thoughts) satan put in me when I started living by faith.

I have no idea where you get fear from in my words. Maybe you should ask them personally and skip the middleman. There are some here who love the Lord with all their being, but are still not healed. What so you think they are afraid of, anyway?

Onelight I appreciate you at least going to the website. Andrew didn't violate any scripture. What he's saying is that since we gave dominion of this world to satan, God uses mankind to speak things into existence in this world. If you guys want to hear it in context he has 5 one hour teachings on the word became flesh. http://www.awmi.net/extra/audio/1057

FYI ... I have been to his site many many times, so you know.

Those are his own words, not scripture. He took an idea and created a doctrine out of it which is not based on any scripture what so ever. God never used man to create anything ... we are not little gods who run around creating anything by the words we speak. That is not scriptural at all, and if it is, please show me.

I see talking about healing and faith steps on everyone's religious toes. I truly know that it works Praise God! I honestly thought that the scriptures would be enough to prove it..

Testimony:

My brother in law Mario was supernaturally healed in Corpus Christi. He needed a shoulder operation and had no health care so he lived in pain for six months. During that time I was studying on supernatural healing. I was full of unbelief (carnally minded). I kept praying to God for revelation. About three months later I was talking to another brother in law and he told me how Mario got healed. I called Mario and it was true. I thank God for that man who healed him and I believe that was a revelation from God. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

You would be hard pressed to find anyone here that does not believe God can heal, so your first statement is not true. To say that to discuss faith steps on our toes is even further from the truth. You will also find that the vast majority here have a relationship with God, not a religion. You will also be hard pressed to find people who believe all we have to do is speak healing into our lives.

Onelight and all others who were offended by my comments , please forgive me and I apologize to all. I will quit this because it's starting to sound like the (political) news lol. Republicans against the Democrats!

Iron sharpens Iron, brother!

We have differences, yes, but I was hardly offended. When it sounded like I may of been, I was just trying to keep things straight.

God Bless

[enoob57]

According to Scripture Abraham is the father of our faith and here is His teaching on this subject:

Luke 16:27-31

27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' 29 Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'"

NKJV

According to this man in torment He wanted to warn His brothers by having someone to coming back from the dead.... Yet Abraham said faith (belief) could only come from Scripture Law and Prophets... which agrees with the rest of the witness of Scripture

Rom 10:17

17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

NKJV

And Christ Himself now gives witness to faith that brings eternal life:

John 20:29-31

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

NKJV

Here is as clear as Scripture will ever be for you... Jesus says you have seen Thomas but those coming having not seen yet read in My Word of what I have done as to miracles and believe (faith Heb 11:1) these have eternal life....

Now if the father of our faith say not by signs and wonders does our faith come and Christ says I wish a people who will believe upon my Word alone of the miracles that I have written about.... and believe as such... these have life in The Son of God!

I have walked upon the earth 52 years and every step I have taken upon it has always been the same (it held me where I placed my foot) and then I took another and (it held also)... so I have repeated this many times to go here and there but this shame I will confess that most of those steps I gave credit to the ground itself for the consistency as to trust in holding my feet .... I was living a lie for the truth is found in the beginning: God the Trinity spoke from that which is nothing to become something ground ( earth ). This Word that He spoke is the unchanging ever constant that keeps my feet and me from falling into the eternities (without reference)... It is the same that we talk of here! It is His Word that is our foundation for all else for in His Word He has said that He is going to allow false signs and wonders to lead many astray.... So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders. For in my heart I have seen Him raise the dead and heal the blind, make the leper clean and restore my blackened heart to a living Word that beats daily within my being... I am in Love with The Lord who has redeemed me so that He is everything to me and right now He is on the Right Hand of The Father so guess where I wish to be more than anything else... yet His slightest will for me to remain in order to testify of Him I will do with all my mind, strength, and heart. I guess the question is if your spouse lives somewhere other than where you are.. where would your desire to be? If I have the chance by sickness to go to be with Him who Holds me in His Love? I would not seek healing for as long as I am in this body I am not where I wish to be.... Love Steven

[MorningGlory]

According to Scripture Abraham is the father of our faith and here is His teaching on this subject:

Luke 16:27-31

27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' 29 Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.' 30 And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' 31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.'"

NKJV

According to this man in torment He wanted to warn His brothers by having someone to coming back from the dead.... Yet Abraham said faith (belief) could only come from Scripture Law and Prophets... which agrees with the rest of the witness of Scripture

Rom 10:17

17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

NKJV

And Christ Himself now gives witness to faith that brings eternal life:

John 20:29-31

29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

NKJV

Here is as clear as Scripture will ever be for you... Jesus says you have seen Thomas but those coming having not seen yet read in My Word of what I have done as to miracles and believe (faith Heb 11:1) these have eternal life....

Now if the father of our faith say not by signs and wonders does our faith come and Christ says I wish a people who will believe upon my Word alone of the miracles that I have written about.... and believe as such... these have life in The Son of God!

I have walked upon the earth 52 years and every step I have taken upon it has always been the same (it held me where I placed my foot) and then I took another and (it held also)... so I have repeated this many times to go here and there but this shame I will confess that most of those steps I gave credit to the ground itself for the consistency as to trust in holding my feet .... I was living a lie for the truth is found in the beginning: God the Trinity spoke from that which is nothing to become something ground ( earth ). This Word that He spoke is the unchanging ever constant that keeps my feet and me from falling into the eternities (without reference)... It is the same that we talk of here! It is His Word that is our foundation for all else for in His Word He has said that He is going to allow false signs and wonders to lead many astray.... So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders. For in my heart I have seen Him raise the dead and heal the blind, make the leper clean and restore my blackened heart to a living Word that beats daily within my being... I am in Love with The Lord who has redeemed me so that He is everything to me and right now He is on the Right Hand of The Father so guess where I wish to be more than anything else... yet His slightest will for me to remain in order to testify of Him I will do with all my mind, strength, and heart. I guess the question is if your spouse lives somewhere other than where you are.. where would your desire to be? If I have the chance by sickness to go to be with Him who Holds me in His Love? I would not seek healing for as long as I am in this body I am not where I wish to be.... Love Steven

Beautifully said, Steven!

[Guest man]

So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders.

I don't look for signs and wonders either, but they do exist. As I stated earlier, a majority of the miracles that happen in this world go unnoticed. Believing in these things does not compromise your faith.

John 14

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

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[OneLight]

So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders.

I don't look for signs and wonders either, but they do exist. As I stated earlier, a majority of the miracles that happen in this world go unnoticed. Believing in these things does not compromise your faith.

John 14

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

12

[Believer112]

So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders.

I don't look for signs and wonders either, but they do exist. As I stated earlier, a majority of the miracles that happen in this world go unnoticed. Believing in these things does not compromise your faith.

John 14

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.

13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

The Lord says these things will happen.

What do you think of the gold dust, gold teeth, gems falling out of the air, diamonds appearing in strange places, manna found in peoples bibles, and 50 foot angles? Are these the signs and wonders you believe in, the ones that are so prevalent today? I do agree that God still works today, but there is a difference between what is His and what is not. Do you agree?

I agree there are a lot of cons and fakes sent by satan to disguise God working in us Christians today.

[Guest man]

So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders.

I don't look for signs and wonders either, but they do exist. As I stated earlier, a majority of the miracles that happen in this world go unnoticed. Believing in these things does not compromise your faith.

John 14

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

12

[OneLight]

So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders.

I don't look for signs and wonders either, but they do exist. As I stated earlier, a majority of the miracles that happen in this world go unnoticed. Believing in these things does not compromise your faith.

John 14

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

12

[Guest man]

So friend as for me I will trust in His Word and not look for signs and wonders.

I don't look for signs and wonders either, but they do exist. As I stated earlier, a majority of the miracles that happen in this world go unnoticed. Believing in these things does not compromise your faith.

John 14

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

12