Writing Tongues

[mizzdy]

Strange enough I have seen just that! Onelight is right there is to be two or three witnesses to it all, and whatever is spoken in tongues is for the edification of those present. I again think Onelight hit the nail on the head, people who do these things seem to want to try and prove their are more spiritual, more connected to God somehow and frankly its a fabrication of their minds. Thats the way I see it, its rather silly if you really think about it. How can something that looks like this, fakjsdfkasjfaoisdoraerjaf, be edifying and how in the world would someone really get the message without a lot of thinking its for them and how can they translate that into their lives and where is the witnesses? Thats my opinion anyhow.

shalom,

Mizz

[nebula]

I'd have to see the usage in context before I pass judgment on their motives.

[Guest agua]

I'd have to see the usage in context before I pass judgment on their motives.

Here's one.

"You need Hoily Ghost Fire......Dear Lord Jesus........abbabababaashacashaca shaca.....Break down the aposatate bondage I pray.........In Jesus "

It would still be difficult to judge their motives imo.

[nebula]

Errrrr.......

If this is a message board, I'd ask them if they are typing what they are sounding out to be saying, or if they are just typing to indicate they are praying.

I wouldn't say they are trying to show off - not off hand. They could be just a little "off" in their theological understanding and need some correction. (Or are under some weird teachers.)

[OneLight]

A link to the board itself would be helpful. Is that possible?

[glf]

The Spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet. As far as tongues goes, the speaker controls when to speak and when not to speak. He controls how loud to speak or to whisper or even to sub-vocalize it. Tongues operates by faith as do all of the gifts of the Spirit. Paul tells us of himself, I thank God that I speak in tongues more than you all, but in the Church I would prefer speak 10 words that they can understand rather than 10,000 in an unknown language. So, yes in the Church; only have two or at the most three and then only if there is an interpreter. Outside of the Church service, tongues is just a tool that enables one to edify their Spirit in the Lord, but their understand is unaffected. Tongues is a gift given of the Lord as he will and does not show either spirituality nor maturity. It is just a tool that if used works in the person who speaks for growth or if you prefer "for edification."

If you speak in an unknown tongue, then that one should pray that the Lord give the gift of prophecy. So we are able to operate in more than one gift. its almost like we start small and as our faith and fluency increase in the gift given by the Lord at first; we should press onward and upward and seek the better gifts. The Lord delights in answering the prayer of faith, especially when we use it to serve others! So, forbid not to speak in tongues, but earnestly desire the better gifts. We all do not have the gift of tongues, but we should stir up the gift that is within us, whatever it may be...

1Cor14:1,2NAS Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries.

1Cor14:4NAS One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church.

1Cor14:5,5NAS Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying. 6 But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking in tongues, what will I profit you unless I speak to you either by way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching.

1Cor14:10,11NAS There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning. 11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me.

1Cor13:1NAS If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

1Cor14:14NAS For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15 What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also. 16 Otherwise if you bless in the spirit only, how will the one who fills the place of the ungifted say the "Amen " at your giving of thanks, since he does not know what you are saying ? 17 For you are giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not edified.

1Cor14:18,19NAS I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all; 19 however, in the church I desire to speak five words with my mind so that I may instruct others also, rather than ten thousand words in a tongue.

1Cor14:22,23NAS So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?

1Cor14:28NAS but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God.

1Cor14:37-40NAS If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.

1Cor12:30,31 NAS All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? 31 But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.

Rom12:6NAS Since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, each of us is to exercise them accordingly: if prophecy, according to the proportion of his faith.

Rom11:29NAS for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Heb2:4NAS God also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.

1Cor1:7NAS so that you are not lacking in any gift, awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Pet4:10NAS As each one has received a special gift, employ it in serving one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.

[other one]

When speaking in tongues in public I would agree that the person speaking has control over his tongue, however I know several people who do intercessory prayers in a prayer tongue and we don't always have control over it. When an emergency is in progress sometimes it just happens.

[Guest agua]

A link to the board itself would be helpful. Is that possible?

I'll pm you the link.

[glf]

When speaking in tongues in public I would agree that the person speaking has control over his tongue, however I know several people who do intercessory prayers in a prayer tongue and we don't always have control over it. When an emergency is in progress sometimes it just happens.

1Cor14:27,28KJV If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

1Cor14:32NAS And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

I would have to say that they do have control because of the above passage. But, at the least, they should be able to speak to themselves and God. I can picture the unction being so great that it could be very hard to control, but the functioning of the gift is still under their control or else how can they keep silent if there is no interpreter present at that particular service. If its possible and convenient; go to one of the speakers of tongues in the Church and ask if they could stop speaking during their gift's functioning, I would be curious of the answer...

I take it you don't know that it is an intercessory prayer until after the interpretation?

[other one]

When speaking in tongues in public I would agree that the person speaking has control over his tongue, however I know several people who do intercessory prayers in a prayer tongue and we don't always have control over it. When an emergency is in progress sometimes it just happens.

1Cor14:27,28KJV If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

1Cor14:32NAS And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

I would have to say that they do have control because of the above passage. But, at the least, they should be able to speak to themselves and God. I can picture the unction being so great that it could be very hard to control, but the functioning of the gift is still under their control or else how can they keep silent if there is no interpreter present at that particular service. If its possible and convenient; go to one of the speakers of tongues in the Church and ask if they could stop speaking during their gift's functioning, I would be curious of the answer...

I take it you don't know that it is an intercessory prayer until after the interpretation?

Well, I can't disagree with the speaking to yourself and to God part. . Sometimes you just wake up in the middle of the night with your mouth running and it won't stop for a minute or so. After a few times you just learn to let it run for a bit. It isn't loud for it never wakes my wife, though a couple of people I know sometimes wake their wives up to pray also though not in a tongue in any case that I'm aware of. Sometimes you know who you are praying for and sometimes you don't. I have never had this happen while out in public that I couldn't just whisper to myself; it's a very private thing for everyone I know who does this. Personally I don't understand why it happens in the first place..... I don't understand the need for me to pray for someone who is in danger. God knows their in danger why should I need to pray for them? I don't understand that concept. I don't mind it, and it does actually make me feel a little important sometimes, but I don't understand the need for us to pray for each other