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I see how the trend could continue what with the world's dwindling moral fiber, but I am so encouraged by what I am seeing in the youth of today's great churches! Holy Spirit is on the move and igniting their hearts with such strong faith. Youth all over are taking up the challenge to live their faith, against the tide of immorality that would seek to engulf them. These are the next generation's spiritual leaders, and I am more encouraged than ever before.

Makes me wonder what you are looking? When I look at the world, I see many more lost these days then I did growing up. I see 5 years old talking like drunken sailors, 12 year old girls trying to look like 21, parents turning their backs on their kids in favor of their own selfish desires. Not sure where you are looking.

I am seeing a resurgence in many churches of youth coming to God and serving Him with their lives. There is an overabundance of evil out there, but I am seeing more on-fire, believing and influential, soul-winning youth than I have ever seen in all my years.

With Jesus we can choose to see the glass half empty or overflowing. I am not wearing rosy glasses, either. I see the filth in this world, but I also see a solid core of strong, spiritually mature youth coming up.

Do you believe that the church is to make the world a better place for Christ to return, known as the Latter Day Movement?

What? Why jump to that conclusion from what I have said? Sometimes I have to just shake my head... :13: The Manchild Company is a heresy of monumental proportion. The world is going to be a wretched place when Jesus returns and the Church will have nothing to do with it.

The Latter Day Rain Movement has nothing to do with the Manchild Company. Look them both up and see the difference. In short, the Latter Day Rain believe that in the last days, God will pour out His Spirit to create a Five Fold Ministry that will take the world back to prepare it for Him, ushering in His return.

I had to chuckle when I read your glass statement. It is half empty or half full. There is no overflowing in that idiom at all.

May I ask what churches you are looking at? They surely do not represent the ones I know of.

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I see how the trend could continue what with the world's dwindling moral fiber, but I am so encouraged by what I am seeing in the youth of today's great churches! Holy Spirit is on the move and igniting their hearts with such strong faith. Youth all over are taking up the challenge to live their faith, against the tide of immorality that would seek to engulf them. These are the next generation's spiritual leaders, and I am more encouraged than ever before.

Makes me wonder what you are looking? When I look at the world, I see many more lost these days then I did growing up. I see 5 years old talking like drunken sailors, 12 year old girls trying to look like 21, parents turning their backs on their kids in favor of their own selfish desires. Not sure where you are looking.

I am seeing a resurgence in many churches of youth coming to God and serving Him with their lives. There is an overabundance of evil out there, but I am seeing more on-fire, believing and influential, soul-winning youth than I have ever seen in all my years.

With Jesus we can choose to see the glass half empty or overflowing. I am not wearing rosy glasses, either. I see the filth in this world, but I also see a solid core of strong, spiritually mature youth coming up.

Do you believe that the church is to make the world a better place for Christ to return, known as the Latter Day Movement?

What? Why jump to that conclusion from what I have said? Sometimes I have to just shake my head... :13: The Manchild Company is a heresy of monumental proportion. The world is going to be a wretched place when Jesus returns and the Church will have nothing to do with it.

The Latter Day Rain Movement has nothing to do with the Manchild Company. Look them both up and see the difference. In short, the Latter Day Rain believe that in the last days, God will pour out His Spirit to create a Five Fold Ministry that will take the world back to prepare it for Him, ushering in His return.

I had to chuckle when I read your glass statement. It is half empty or half full. There is no overflowing in that idiom at all.

May I ask what churches you are looking at? They surely do not represent the ones I know of.

One feeds the other, I suppose. No, I don't believe that the word of God teaches any such thing.

With God the glass is never half-full, baby!! :emot-highfive:

Many churches, such as my own, and a couple examples are Bill Johnson's Bethel Church in Redding, California and I know of Steven Furtick's Elevation Church, in North Carolina, and add Mars Hill Church in Portland, Oregon. Many, many alive and kicking Holy Spirit-run churches are seeing youth catching the call and running with it.


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Age really should not be a factor that deems if a person has more faith than another...then do not see why the amount of faith one person has in comparison to another is even an issue. Think it is these sort of things that tend to draw people away from Jesus rather than toward.

Ive been seeing a lot of articles in the news lately about faith in God, and how it is diminished in some way. In this case, the younger ones do not believe as much in God. I see implications in all of the articles that lack of faith is better in the eyes of the writer.


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I see how the trend could continue what with the world's dwindling moral fiber, but I am so encouraged by what I am seeing in the youth of today's great churches! Holy Spirit is on the move and igniting their hearts with such strong faith. Youth all over are taking up the challenge to live their faith, against the tide of immorality that would seek to engulf them. These are the next generation's spiritual leaders, and I am more encouraged than ever before.

Makes me wonder what you are looking? When I look at the world, I see many more lost these days then I did growing up. I see 5 years old talking like drunken sailors, 12 year old girls trying to look like 21, parents turning their backs on their kids in favor of their own selfish desires. Not sure where you are looking.

I am seeing a resurgence in many churches of youth coming to God and serving Him with their lives. There is an overabundance of evil out there, but I am seeing more on-fire, believing and influential, soul-winning youth than I have ever seen in all my years.

With Jesus we can choose to see the glass half empty or overflowing. I am not wearing rosy glasses, either. I see the filth in this world, but I also see a solid core of strong, spiritually mature youth coming up.

Do you believe that the church is to make the world a better place for Christ to return, known as the Latter Day Movement?

What? Why jump to that conclusion from what I have said? Sometimes I have to just shake my head... :13: The Manchild Company is a heresy of monumental proportion. The world is going to be a wretched place when Jesus returns and the Church will have nothing to do with it.

I see where you are coming from and that is true.

Here is my prediction: over the coming years we will see fewer and fewer mainline, lukewarm churches. Either people will (1) get tired of the emptiness and quit altogether or (2) find something that is real, something to be passionate about. So, I suspect the raw numbers of people in churches or who identify themselves as Christians, will diminish. For so long, in America and Canada, being Christian was sort of the "in" thing, socially. Maybe that won't be the case anymore. But those who choose to stay will be more passionate about their convictions than the previous generation.

I have never heard of The Manchild Company. :blink: Can't find it on Wikipedia, either, so it must not exist.

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Actually I think the mainline denominations will continue. Will they be of real faith though? That I dont know, but do not think so. I see them more as country club type places, where folks gather on sundays to participate, even network, for a sense of belonging, without true worship.


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I think that no matter which denomination, it comes down to the faith and teaching in the home by the parents. The choices that are made by the young people reflect the teaching in the home. If the parents are godly the children who are taught about Jesus and His redemptive work and accept Him as Lord and Saviour, though they may fall in with the wrong group will be drawn back to Jesus by the Holy Spirit. He is their conscience and reminder of the One who loves them. Though they go to church and hear the teaching it is for an hour or 2 but it is in the home that God and the Word is taught and lived and unless it is lived by the parents the young will draw away seeing the church as hypocritical.

Parents it is all up to you to not only speak the Word but to live it so that the young can see it and emulate it - then they will not depart from it. Perhaps that is what the generations that had less did and though the times got tough they relied on God to provide whereas now when times get tough people rely on the government and do not look to God the Provider for all their needs - spiritual or physical.


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Age really should not be a factor that deems if a person has more faith than another...then do not see why the amount of faith one person has in comparison to another is even an issue. Think it is these sort of things that tend to draw people away from Jesus rather than toward.

Ive been seeing a lot of articles in the news lately about faith in God, and how it is diminished in some way. In this case, the younger ones do not believe as much in God. I see implications in all of the articles that lack of faith is better in the eyes of the writer.

Yet I see so many who are older than me here...saying how youth like me lack in faith. Why is faith becoming a contest? It is sick


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I think that no matter which denomination, it comes down to the faith and teaching in the home by the parents. The choices that are made by the young people reflect the teaching in the home. If the parents are godly the children who are taught about Jesus and His redemptive work and accept Him as Lord and Saviour, though they may fall in with the wrong group will be drawn back to Jesus by the Holy Spirit. He is their conscience and reminder of the One who loves them. Though they go to church and hear the teaching it is for an hour or 2 but it is in the home that God and the Word is taught and lived and unless it is lived by the parents the young will draw away seeing the church as hypocritical.

Parents it is all up to you to not only speak the Word but to live it so that the young can see it and emulate it - then they will not depart from it. Perhaps that is what the generations that had less did and though the times got tough they relied on God to provide whereas now when times get tough people rely on the government and do not look to God the Provider for all their needs - spiritual or physical.

Are you saying that any of individuals who may be on government assistance do not seek God to provide for them? This judgement card is getting really old.... Think that the problem here is instead of sharing and ministering in God's love, too many Christians are acting more as Pharisees and Sadduccees....killing the faith in their own brothers and sisters in Christ with either false teachings or condemnation.


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Age really should not be a factor that deems if a person has more faith than another...then do not see why the amount of faith one person has in comparison to another is even an issue. Think it is these sort of things that tend to draw people away from Jesus rather than toward.

Ive been seeing a lot of articles in the news lately about faith in God, and how it is diminished in some way. In this case, the younger ones do not believe as much in God. I see implications in all of the articles that lack of faith is better in the eyes of the writer.

Yet I see so many who are older than me here...saying how youth like me lack in faith. Why is faith becoming a contest? It is sick

I am sorry if I have indicated that the youth I speak of is someone your age. The youth I mention are children, minors, not adults. These are the up an coming believers/nonbelievers.

You are right. It is sick that this is happening. In fact, sick is not a strong enough word for what is happening in this world.


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Age really should not be a factor that deems if a person has more faith than another...then do not see why the amount of faith one person has in comparison to another is even an issue. Think it is these sort of things that tend to draw people away from Jesus rather than toward.

Ive been seeing a lot of articles in the news lately about faith in God, and how it is diminished in some way. In this case, the younger ones do not believe as much in God. I see implications in all of the articles that lack of faith is better in the eyes of the writer.

Yet I see so many who are older than me here...saying how youth like me lack in faith. Why is faith becoming a contest? It is sick

I am sorry if I have indicated that the youth I speak of is someone your age. The youth I mention are children, minors, not adults. These are the up an coming believers/nonbelievers.

You are right. It is sick that this is happening. In fact, sick is not a strong enough word for what is happening in this world.

No what is sick here is not only that this is happening but .....never mind. I am not even going to dignify this thread with further response.

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