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They believe that only Allah may forgive sins and that forgiveness must be earned. They also believe that Allah has no son and that Jesus was merely a Prophet..

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They believe that only Allah may forgive sins and that forgiveness must be earned. They also believe that Allah has no son and that Jesus was merely a Prophet..

Thank you...Matthitjah

Muhammed was born after Jesus'

The Quran originated from Muhammed, being visited by an angel.

Wonder why they changed God's ? Surely in those days , they must have known about God using Moses,

to free the people out of Egypt.


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They believe that only Allah may forgive sins and that forgiveness must be earned. They also believe that Allah has no son and that Jesus was merely a Prophet..

Thank you...Matthitjah

Muhammed was born after Jesus'

The Quran originated from Muhammed, being visited by an angel.

Wonder why they changed God's ? Surely in those days , they must have known about God using Moses,

to free the people out of Egypt.

Muhammed is a liar. He basically rewrote portions of the Old Testament as his foundation and then filled in new supposedly prophetic utterances to suit the demonic spirit that he was channeling. He was deceived as well.

There are Biblical Prophetic concerns as well. Some of these things were Prophesied and you have to take into account actual Prophetic utterances as far back a Genesis and Noah.


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They believe that only Allah may forgive sins and that forgiveness must be earned. They also believe that Allah has no son and that Jesus was merely a Prophet..

Thank you...Matthitjah

Muhammed was born after Jesus'

The Quran originated from Muhammed, being visited by an angel.

Wonder why they changed God's ? Surely in those days , they must have known about God using Moses,

to free the people out of Egypt.

w/hat they teach is that it was Ismael and not Issac that Abraham started to sacrifice and it was through Ishmael that the promise was given. They teach that the Jews changed the Bible.

Interestingly they do believe that Jesus was a prophet and did all the things he did, however they teach that someone died in his place and it wasn't him that died on the cross. He is coming back as we believe but it is to instruct all Christians that Mohammad was right and we should all be Muslims.

Pretty twisted stuff, but people do buy into it.


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Pretty twisted stuff, but people do buy into it.

Because it is based in truth. Satan begins with truth, and as you put it, twists it to his liking and people buy it because their understanding is darkened due to sin. There is no coincidence between Islam expecting a coming deliverer and the coming of the Antichrist and false prophet. The Jesus who comes back to point Christians to Mohammad is a shoe in. Just take all biblical prophecy of the coming events and color them in with Satan's lies and they become the worlds truth. When it all goes down here in the near future we are going to see just how deep the roots of the church are in Christ. We will see the parable of the sewer come to life.

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It's my personal opinion that within a year, we'll be a lot more concerned with Washington DC and the Vatican than we will be with Islam..... but the world including the US will have a much lower population.


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It's my personal opinion that within a year, we'll be a lot more concerned with Washington DC and the Vatican than we will be with Islam..... but the world including the US will have a much lower population.

Because of the Laws of birth-control ...we are overly populated, and they claim that it is one of the reasons why, there won't be anymore

Social Security checks in the near future.

But, we do need to be concerned about Muslims...they are already taking over the City of Detroit , Mich.

They are buying forclosure houses for $1.00. ...they are scattered all over the U.S. ...

Here in our town they, about 7 muslim people own just one gas station. But, there are a few gas stations,

that they are owning. They own business places in groups. For I noticed there were about 7 behind the conor ,each time I needed to get gas at their station.


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It's my personal opinion that within a year, we'll be a lot more concerned with Washington DC and the Vatican than we will be with Islam..... but the world including the US will have a much lower population.

Because of the Laws of birth-control ...we are overly populated, and they claim that it is one of the reasons why, there won't be anymore

Social Security checks in the near future.

But, we do need to be concerned about Muslims...they are already taking over the City of Detroit , Mich.

They are buying forclosure houses for $1.00. ...they are scattered all over the U.S. ...

Here in our town they, about 7 muslim people own just one gas station. But, there are a few gas stations,

that they are owning. They own business places in groups. For I noticed there were about 7 behind the conor ,each time I needed to get gas at their station.

i don't disagree with that, for they are attempting to colonize the USA and then the world...... however I also know that it's being allowed to put the world in a position of a really huge bloody global war with Islam, and those that are in power now do not intend to let them win...... but to depopulate the world and turn everyone against religion, they must build Islam up into a worthy enemy so accomplish their goals.

Neither Islam, nor the people of the US are going to willingly submit our sovereignty to the Globalists...... they need to kill most of us....... us being US and Isalm...... and take out the Zionists while they are at it.

We're using the oil industry to build up really good enemies. And we do have the best enemies that money can buy.

Anyhow, in my personal view we're about to loose about 5 Billion people....... and I think the ones who die may be the lucky ones


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But, God told Moses .....to continue to do what God instructed, for all generations to come.

Until, Jesus was the lamb of God slain.... for the forgiveness of sins ,for all mankind.

No, He didn't say that.

Yeah He didn't. Can you direct me to scripture where you think He did?

Exodus 29 : 14

14- But the flesh of the bull , with its skin and its offal,

you shall burn with fire outside the camp.

It is a sin offering.

God is giving moses His instructions , on what to do ...and what the people should do concerning the offerings.

In this same chapter , God says ...

still He is speaking of animals here...

Exodus 29: 41-42

41- And the other lamb you shall offer at twilight ;

and you shall offer with it the grain offering and the drink offering,

as in the morning, for a sweet aroma, an offering made by fire to

the Lord.

42- This shall be a continual burt offering throughout your generations

at the door of the tabernacle of meeting before the Lord,

where I will meet you to speak with you.

Even if the tabernacle was destroyed ...Gods" instructions still remained .

Until His Son became the Lamb of God , Jesus was became the sin offering ,

He died so we can be forgiven of our sins.

My point of all this is...the people of the Middle East... Jerusalem/ Israel have

the old testament, and they know and believe that God used Moses....and God gave Moses

instructions for the people to live by, for all generations to come.

And some don't believe in Jesus dying for our sins , by crucifixion and that He was not the Son of God.

As I wondered , if they were still slaying animals so they can be forgiven by God ? Since they don't believe

in Jesus' death on the cross.

Those texts don't tell the whole story, though. In other places they were told that they could only sacrifice at the place where God put His Name. There was a set procedure where it could only take place with temple and the necessary elements, like the altar, the holy of holies, et al..

But to answer your question more directly, they are not sacrificing animals. They can't without a temple. The temple mount is occupiied by a blasphemous and abomnible mosque. After the temple was destroyed, they turned to the works of the Torah as their means of atonement.

God told them to slay the animals outside of the tabernacle, where they were burned.

Would you burn anything inside your house ? NO.

God did make that piece of Land Holy.

Concerning the slaying of animals as offerings unto God , is found in Chapter 29 of Exodus.

He did set those instruction/ rules for them to follow throughout generations .... Exodus 29 :42

Temple or no temple.

If they, are on Gods' Holy Land ...with a mosque built there ? Let God handle these type of people.

So what you are saying is that although Jesus came to fulfill the law, some we should still keep and others not?

Got a list for me?

This is not pertaining to us Christians... FEZ

I am referring to those who don't believe in Jesus', death on the cross... and He being the lamb of God .

This is pertaining to Muslim beliefs and other non-believers in Jerusalem / Israel... those that don't believe, that Jesus was crucified ,and that Jesus was the son of God.

But, they do believe in the old testament scriptures, and God used Moses.

And how today ...are they forgiven if they don't believe in Jesus' death. Are they still slaying animals . That was the question of the Topic.

And someone answered it... saying that ...they believe that doing good deeds ,that they are forgiven.

No where did I mention that it was for us to follow , since the birth and death of Jesus.

Sorry sister, I missed the point (that's what comes from speed reading posts...).

My apologies.


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No problem ...FEZ ... misunderstandings can happen in posts.

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