Creation Evidence from South America

[Steve_S]

Yes sevenseas, I agree with you once again. I don't think the 6 days of Genisis were 6 literal days. What's more I think the Bible supports this idea when it says that with God a day is like a thousand years. Again, not to take that too literally, a day with God can be like 1 million of our years, or any amount for that matter. I also believe God has us on the "need to know" plan.

I used to be troubled by all these things. I'm not anymore. I did used to feel a need to know. I used to pray to God and ask Him about this every night. Finally one night He gave me an answer. He showed me a vision in my mind. My question was, "how can it be that the Bible is true, but that also much of what science says it also true?" So in the vision I saw 2 things similar to an octopus but with an uncountable number of tentacles. And in the vision God made each tentacle join with the others from the other octopus, so that for a few brief seconds it all made sense to me. I remember saying out loud, "Oh, so that's how it works". But my puny little human mind couldn't hold onto all the knowledge God showed me in those brief seconds. But I did see it. I saw it, and for a small time, I knew how it's all true.

So since God showed me that I know the Bible is true and I know many other things are also true. Science changes as we learn new things, but the Bible doesn't. It was a wonderful revelation. Right now science says the Universe and the Earth is millions or billions of years old. But the Bible is still true. So the odds are the 6 days in Genisis were not 6 literal days. Now if science ever says carbon dating is wrong, and the Earth is only 10,000 years old, then we still have the Genisis story and perhaps it was 6 days more like 1 of our days. The amount of time is irrelevant. The important thing to know in Genisis is that God created all there is. That's the gold standard about creation.

As for dinos and man together, it can be true. We were taught it wasn't so, and therefore we resist the idea. But what has me sold on the idea are those ancient burial stones depicting dinos and men. How sure are we when those stones were carved? I don't know. But if they were carved about 3000 years ago then that lends compelling evidence to the idea that ancient man and dinos lived together. On some stones the dinos are killing a man. It could be there were dinos and men together on Earth, but the dinos may have been very few and very slow moving. In Jurassic park dinos were depicted as being very fast, very ferocious, and very smart. But 2 decades before that movie came out, dinos were shown in movies to be slow clumsy and stupid. When I was a kid 1 teacher told us a dino had a very small brain. Suppose they were as stupid as your average bug is? Man could have avoided them most times, especially is they were slow, clumsy and made noise coming. It could be.

I think the ironic part about the use of the day for a thousand years argument is that a day, even in that sentence, means a day, and then the allegory is given. It's clearly not contextual with the Genesis account, though, and is an incredibly weak argument at its core, in my opinion.

[Sevenseas]

Fresno Joe

I Believe

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 20:11

I believe also, but that does not answer all the questions and I think that is the point being raised.

I do believe that the words stating that the earth was without form and void and the spirit of the Lord was hovering over the waters indicates

that the earth was already present but something catastrophic occurred prior to the creation of the earth as we know it

This is not a question that has anything to do with salvation and I simply do not understand why some believers try to make it so

Can things not be discussed without aspersions on one's faith?

I am a Christian, spirit filled, believe all that the Bible states. However, I think that some people read certain texts and just gloss over

what is really being said.

[Sevenseas]

Yes sevenseas, I agree with you once again. I don't think the 6 days of Genisis were 6 literal days. What's more I think the Bible supports this idea when it says that with God a day is like a thousand years. Again, not to take that too literally, a day with God can be like 1 million of our years, or any amount for that matter. I also believe God has us on the "need to know" plan.

Hmmm...well I am not saying that the days were not 24 hr events...I am saying something different (see above post) I don't believe that Dinos and people hung out together at the beach and I certainly do not believe they were on the ark.

I used to be troubled by all these things. I'm not anymore. I did used to feel a need to know. I used to pray to God and ask Him about this every night. Finally one night He gave me an answer. He showed me a vision in my mind. My question was, "how can it be that the Bible is true, but that also much of what science says it also true?" So in the vision I saw 2 things similar to an octopus but with an uncountable number of tentacles. And in the vision God made each tentacle join with the others from the other octopus, so that for a few brief seconds it all made sense to me. I remember saying out loud, "Oh, so that's how it works". But my puny little human mind couldn't hold onto all the knowledge God showed me in those brief seconds. But I did see it. I saw it, and for a small time, I knew how it's all true.

Well those kinds of insights or whatever one wants to call them are personal....so I do not ever say yes or no unless they are so way off that

my hair stands on end LOL! See, I am actually not troubled by these things because I know God IS. He IS. I don't think there is the argument

between science and the Bible some people try to make. Think about it: If God is God, then didn't He create what we call science as well?

God and science are not enemies. The limited understanding of both scientists and Joe Blow is where the problem lies

So since God showed me that I know the Bible is true and I know many other things are also true. Science changes as we learn new things, but the Bible doesn't. It was a wonderful revelation. Right now science says the Universe and the Earth is millions or billions of years old. But the Bible is still true. So the odds are the 6 days in Genisis were not 6 literal days. Now if science ever says carbon dating is wrong, and the Earth is only 10,000 years old, then we still have the Genisis story and perhaps it was 6 days more like 1 of our days. The amount of time is irrelevant. The important thing to know in Genisis is that God created all there is. That's the gold standard about creation.

I do believe that God created all there is

As for dinos and man together, it can be true. We were taught it wasn't so, and therefore we resist the idea. But what has me sold on the idea are those ancient burial stones depicting dinos and men. How sure are we when those stones were carved? I don't know. But if they were carved about 3000 years ago then that lends compelling evidence to the idea that ancient man and dinos lived together. On some stones the dinos are killing a man. It could be there were dinos and men together on Earth, but the dinos may have been very few and very slow moving. In Jurassic park dinos were depicted as being very fast, very ferocious, and very smart. But 2 decades before that movie came out, dinos were shown in movies to be slow clumsy and stupid. When I was a kid 1 teacher told us a dino had a very small brain. Suppose they were as stupid as your average bug is? Man could have avoided them most times, especially is they were slow, clumsy and made noise coming. It could be.

There were some beasts alive at the time of man, in England for example, that are now extinct...a gigantic form of deer for example and also huge pigs.

I think that science has a better grip on how dinos actually were now, then 20 yrs ago. I was interested in dinosaurs, geology, deep sea exploration,

volcanoes and biology when other little girls were playing with dolls, so I have always been keenly interested in the world around us.

I just do not think that people and the dinos were together.

That, is what I think and I am aware that some would tell me I am not a Christian. Seriously? There is only one thing that makes

you a believer and it is not whether or not you think people ate dinosaur on Saturday night.

[LOVE SONGS]

Very interesting .

I figure that if they were corrupted ...God did make their land desolete. God destroyed them and the land.

I think that the dinos and those humans live at the same time. They had to , how else would they have known of

the dinos.

Those people may have seen the Dino as a god or a strong creature.

The carving of the dino on those rocks and vases near their graves ...was a symbol to ward off anything that would come near their dead bodies.

Although, these are only my thoughts on it .