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My husband was divorce when I married him. His ex-wife choice to leave. She got remarried to someone else then divorce again. Would you  accuse me of adultery  because I married someone who was once divorce?  As for your question. I think the act of marriage and divorce is a privet matter between those involved and I for one do not want politicians  running my life for me with. What about men who beat their wives and beat their children? Should she just stay and take the beatings until he kills her?  Take away the right to divorce and we will end up with a lot more men/women killing one another. We don't live in a perfect world, and more laws won't make this world anymore perfect. We can try to make every sin imaginable illegal but that won't get more people into Heaven. Laws don't save the lost  Jesus does.

Their is always the option for separation in a case of abuse.God wants the couple to reconcile if at all possible.Sometimes that is the case if the abuser will get counseling.If the abuser never changes God does not expect you to go into a situation where you and your childrens lives are in danger.God has a tremendous amount of understanding and compassion.Now if it is ok biblically for you to remarry I am not sure about that.

 

 

this is a good discussion, but not the point of the thread.  If you like we could continue this in a different thread. 


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My husband was divorce when I married him. His ex-wife choice to leave. She got remarried to someone else then divorce again. Would you  accuse me of adultery  because I married someone who was once divorce?  As for your question. I think the act of marriage and divorce is a privet matter between those involved and I for one do not want politicians  running my life for me with. What about men who beat their wives and beat their children? Should she just stay and take the beatings until he kills her?  Take away the right to divorce and we will end up with a lot more men/women killing one another. We don't live in a perfect world, and more laws won't make this world anymore perfect. We can try to make every sin imaginable illegal but that won't get more people into Heaven. Laws don't save the lost  Jesus does.

 

I would not accuse you of anything, that is not my point.  It would seem that when his ex-wife got married again she was being unfaithful, which would have released your husband from the bonds of that marriage.

 

But this is more about the laws that we push for and do not push for.     I am not saying that we should take away the right to divorce, and never would.  Again, I do not think that we should use laws to force people to act like Christians.

 

What I am asking is can someone make a statement like you did above, which I bolded, and also be against same sex marriage without being at a minimum inconsistent in their views?


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Paul spoke of another reason for divorce.  If an unbelieving spouse does not want to remain married because of your belief in God, than you are free from the bonds of marriage.  I believe the Holy Spirit guided him in this passage.

 

As for the political system, let the world take care of the world.  If I vote, it will be for the one who is closest to my beliefs.  I do not vote on one particular item.

 

When you say it "closest to your beliefs" are you speaking of religious views?


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According to Jesus divorce for any reason other than sexual immorality results in adultery if there is a remarriage.

 

Our laws today ignore this and divorce and remarriage are very common for a multitude of reasons not dealing with sexual immorality.  In the eyes of our legal system these marriages are every bit as legit as any other marriage.   But clearly this would be against the very words of Jesus.

 

As far as I know there are no national level politicians seeking to change this, none of the political parties have it in their platform to change this.

 

So I ask you, if you vote a politician that supports these laws, are you not supporting adultery much in the same way that someone that votes for a politicians that supports gay marriage equates to them supporting gay marriage?

Voting for anyone is a minefield. How can we know everything about anyone? And what is the choice? Not to vote at all?

My president is a serial marrier. I think he has about 4 or so wives. He has been charged and acquitted of rape, etc. I don't vote for his party because of that. I don't vote for them because they are corrupt and useless. So the question is a difficult one to answer. We live in the world unfortunately......

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Voting for anyone is a minefield. How can we know everything about anyone? And what is the choice? Not to vote at all?

 

 

 

Would that be a bad thing?


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What I am asking is can someone make a statement like you did above, which I bolded, and also be against same sex marriage without being at a minimum inconsistent in their views?

 I am not entirely sure that I am 100% against gay marriage.

 

(Oh I'm going to get it now!)

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What I am asking is can someone make a statement like you did above, which I bolded, and also be against same sex marriage without being at a minimum inconsistent in their views?

 I am not entirely sure that I am 100% against gay marriage.

 

(Oh I'm going to get it now!)

 

 

 

Personally I don't care one way or the other, I'm just curious.........why?


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What I am asking is can someone make a statement like you did above, which I bolded, and also be against same sex marriage without being at a minimum inconsistent in their views?

 I am not entirely sure that I am 100% against gay marriage.

 

(Oh I'm going to get it now!)

 

 

and from a legal point of view, I would agree with you.  But you are right, such a point of view is not very popular here. 


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Paul spoke of another reason for divorce.  If an unbelieving spouse does not want to remain married because of your belief in God, than you are free from the bonds of marriage.  I believe the Holy Spirit guided him in this passage.

 

As for the political system, let the world take care of the world.  If I vote, it will be for the one who is closest to my beliefs.  I do not vote on one particular item.

 

When you say it "closest to your beliefs" are you speaking of religious views?

 

 

The views that He convicts me of.


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According to Jesus divorce for any reason other than sexual immorality results in adultery if there is a remarriage.

 

Our laws today ignore this and divorce and remarriage are very common for a multitude of reasons not dealing with sexual immorality.  In the eyes of our legal system these marriages are every bit as legit as any other marriage.   But clearly this would be against the very words of Jesus.

 

As far as I know there are no national level politicians seeking to change this, none of the political parties have it in their platform to change this.

 

So I ask you, if you vote a politician that supports these laws, are you not supporting adultery much in the same way that someone that votes for a politicians that supports gay marriage equates to them supporting gay marriage?

 

The political system of the United States is not a theocracy, and no one here advocates a theocracy instituted by man.  You need to study the scriptures in which Jesus talks about divorce in more depth.  And I would have some Interlinears handy when you did so.

 

 

How does this statement fit in with your view of same sex marriage? 

 

You seem fine with the government imposing the biblical view of marriage when it comes to same sexes, so why not when it comes to divorce also?

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