The Devil's power??

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

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Yes, I agree.....

[Frisbinator]

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the effort that you all go through to post all of your info. Here are just a couple of questions/comments I have about some of the things people have said:

Sorry, I forgot to ask you a question, Brother Fribinator: Where did you get the idea satan has power?

How could Satan's power be denied? Look at how many Christian men are addicted to pornography, look at all of the sexual abuse that happens, look at all of the violence people commit, look at all of the corruption.

Gen 3:1

Now the snake was wiser than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.

don't think that ever single bad thing that tempts us comes directly from Satan. Most if it comes from our own personal selves and the nature that we have inside each of us.

We are natural sinners.....but I just hear so many people talking about how careful we need to be, because Satan is right around the corner, ready to throw another temptation at us, etc.......

When you say, "don't say that EVERY single bad thing that temps us comes from Satan", does that imply that there are some bad things that tempt us that DO come from Satan? If so, that brings me right back to the original question: How can Satan be omnipresent? Or does he just tempt one person at a time?

The devil is the father of lies who first murdered adam and eve with his trechery.

Joh 8:44

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

Hold on a second, the Devil never killed Adam or Eve did he? He just tempted them to eat from the tree of knowledge right? I thought that Cain committed the first murder...

YES BUT, the lake of fire isnt' even being used or created... i dunno which one, UNTIL AFTER JESUS COMES AGAIN... i wish... christians would take the time to read the bible on these simple points.

So, you're saying that right now, Hell does not exist?? Does everyone else agree with that, or am I the only one who "did not take the time to read the bible on this simple point"?

[Leonard]

Well, since Jesus said "ALL power in heaven and on earth..." belonged to Him, it is very difficult to see why you believe satan has power. Did Jesus lie? Whence then has satan this power?

[other one]

Hell is the bible translation for Hades and Sheol. Both words mean "the grave".

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It is also from Geenna and tartaroo or something like that, genna.... meaning the firey hell that everyone talks about. The other word is where God locked up the fallen angels that came down and made whoopie with the daughters of men.'

This along with the other two that Tubal Cain referrs to gives three different things that Hell can mean.

So when you use the word hell, you should really explain which hell you are talking about, or it will confuse me and I'll confuse the thread and then where will you be.....

[seraph]

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YES BUT, the lake of fire isnt' even being used or created... i dunno which one, UNTIL AFTER JESUS COMES AGAIN... i wish... christians would take the time to read the bible on these simple points.

So, you're saying that right now, Hell does not exist?? Does everyone else agree with that, or am I the only one who "did not take the time to read the bible on this simple point"?

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I think hell is pretty real; otherwise, what's the point in warning us about it?

In reference to Lake of Fire...

Rev 19:20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

Rev 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Re 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

Rev 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

[seraph]

Replying to The Devil's power??

Your whole post on this subject is based in fables and man made stories handed down by the very evil that you are inquiring about.

The closest thing that you will find to a satan that has power would be pharos magicians. who turned their stafs into snakes.

The word satan is just that, a word, that means adversary, one who withstands.

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in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.

[seraph]

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When you say, "don't say that EVERY single bad thing that temps us comes from Satan", does that imply that there are some bad things that tempt us that DO come from Satan? If so, that brings me right back to the original question: How can Satan be omnipresent? Or does he just tempt one person at a time?

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Ok... I am repeating myself here but...

Yes the devil tempts us

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Hold on a second, the Devil never killed Adam or Eve did he? He just tempted them to eat from the tree of knowledge right? I thought that Cain committed the first murder...

Yes indeed believeing the lies of the devil and acting on those lies killed adam and eve. Because death had not yet entered into the picture. But the warning of GOD that in the day that you eat you will surely die was carried out and death became part of GOD'S creation because of this sin. But remember a day to the LORD is like a thousand years.

Ge 2:17

but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."

2Pe 3:8

But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Ps 90:4

For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it is past, And like a watch in the night.

In CHRIST JESUS

[nebula]

Frisbinator -

You've been asking us what we believe about Satan.

But what do you believe about Satan?