Measles cases put Texas megachurch under scrutiny

[MorningGlory]

 

 

Most doctors I know won't get the flu shot.  They, like me, are informed consumers and just say no.

 

 

Most health care professionals I know get the flu shot. 

 

Right; I don't know too many but my doctor and his staff get them.  I don't, personally, but it's because I'm a big chicken.    I should though.

[ayin jade]

 

 

You need to be more specific of what you are looking for.    Are you referring to a medication that has caused severe adverse reactions such as injuring in a dibilitating  manner 5,000 people such as the vaccine injection, and that medication is still on the market?   Did the mediction kill someone? If that is the case, and the medication is still on the market, then you need to get a lawyer and sue the pharmaceutical company and/or  take it up with the FDA.  Or start your own information campaign informing people of the dangers.  Good luck with that.

 

 

 

Tylenol not only is still on the market but is also over the counter. Yet over 40,000 people per year are hospitalized as a direct result of tylenol. Of those, over 400 per year die from it. It can cause extensive permanent liver damage even in the recommended dose range. 

 

Many modern medicines as well as natural ones have side effects that harm many users. When that reaches an unacceptable level, where the risk outweighs the benefit only then is it removed from the market. 

[other one]

I've been taking these vaccines for 40 years without any major problems.   We gave them to our kids and I am assuming our grandkids are getting them and we are all ok.  Well little max is just 4 months old so we might not want to count him......

 

 

 

Everything you put in your mouth can be hazardous to your health to some people at one time or another.  I've had a tablespoon of raw honey nearly kill me twice in the past 30 years.  Set off an acute asthma attack and if I had not had my inhaler, I would have died.

[The_Patriot21]

 

your still not addressing the fact that all meds come with side effects-some are even lethal to a small percentage of the populace. And I don't see you speaking out against those.

 

 

I apologize.  I have been under the weather today.

 

You need to be more specific of what you are looking for.    Are you referring to a medication that has caused severe adverse reactions such as injuring in a dibilitating  manner 5,000 people such as the vaccine injection, and that medication is still on the market?   Did the mediction kill someone? If that is the case, and the medication is still on the market, then you need to get a lawyer and sue the pharmaceutical company and/or  take it up with the FDA.  Or start your own information campaign informing people of the dangers.  Good luck with that.

 

In my experiences, and to the best of my knowledge,  medications that have been found to  seriously harm or cause the death of someone because the medication itself was discovered after the fact to be unsafe, such as Darvocet,  or was involved in a lawsuit to cause  death or serious harm to someone,  was taken off the market.

 

 

what do you mean specific? all you have to do is turn on the TV and watch pretty much every single add for prescription medications-from depression meds to allergy meds, they all have this little "heads up" at the end listing all the side effects-and with most of them it even says in "extreme cases may cause death" (yes Ive seen it. repeatedly) Its because these meds, have been proven in certain extreme circumstances to cause death-theres not likely a prescription drug out there that hasn't killed someone somewhere. Its released, with the warnings in all the TV commercials, because the powers that be think the benefits outweigh the risks-and the risks are minimal, but they still want you to make an informed decision, which is why they put the warning label up.

 

With that being said, I am sure vaccines work the same way-they all have side effects, and in some extreme cases can be quite serious. It bothers me they don't come with the same warning labels that prescription meds do, and are just handed out across the board-but the fact is, evidence says 5000 cases out of millions, even if its not mere coincidence, are more likely "extreme cases" and may have had other factors involved.

[nikki1]

 

 

your still not addressing the fact that all meds come with side effects-some are even lethal to a small percentage of the populace. And I don't see you speaking out against those.

 

 

I apologize.  I have been under the weather today.

 

You need to be more specific of what you are looking for.    Are you referring to a medication that has caused severe adverse reactions such as injuring in a dibilitating  manner 5,000 people such as the vaccine injection, and that medication is still on the market?   Did the mediction kill someone? If that is the case, and the medication is still on the market, then you need to get a lawyer and sue the pharmaceutical company and/or  take it up with the FDA.  Or start your own information campaign informing people of the dangers.  Good luck with that.

 

In my experiences, and to the best of my knowledge,  medications that have been found to  seriously harm or cause the death of someone because the medication itself was discovered after the fact to be unsafe, such as Darvocet,  or was involved in a lawsuit to cause  death or serious harm to someone,  was taken off the market.

 

 

what do you mean specific? all you have to do is turn on the TV and watch pretty much every single add for prescription medications-from depression meds to allergy meds, they all have this little "heads up" at the end listing all the side effects-and with most of them it even says in "extreme cases may cause death" (yes Ive seen it. repeatedly) Its because these meds, have been proven in certain extreme circumstances to cause death-theres not likely a prescription drug out there that hasn't killed someone somewhere. Its released, with the warnings in all the TV commercials, because the powers that be think the benefits outweigh the risks-and the risks are minimal, but they still want you to make an informed decision, which is why they put the warning label up.

 

With that being said, I am sure vaccines work the same way-they all have side effects, and in some extreme cases can be quite serious. It bothers me they don't come with the same warning labels that prescription meds do, and are just handed out across the board-but the fact is, evidence says 5000 cases out of millions, even if its not mere coincidence, are more likely "extreme cases" and may have had other factors involved.

 

 

 

 

what do you mean specific?

 

I believe I spelled it out for you.  Obviously, you aren't able to come up with any.

 

 

 

all you have to do is turn on the TV and watch pretty much every single add for prescription medications-from depression meds to allergy meds, they all have this little "heads up" at the end

 

Medical people do not rely on TV commercials when collecting specific patient medical information regarding a potential  harmful drug.  We collect  and analyze data specific to the patient symptoms and the drug involved.  It's not as simple as you try to make it sound.

 

You can rationalize all you want, but the facts and the data are what they are and  the fact remains that thousands of people and children lives have been ruined or died because of an unsafe vaccine injection.  And this is just the tip of the iceberg according to my own research from reliable sources.

 

Now you can go ahead and accuse me of fear mongering,  but I trust my own research and the data I have collected, and I'll stick with it.  Anyone else is free to do the same if they really want to know the truth about the harmful effects of vaccines  because the information is available.  Whether they choose to play Russian Roulette, "based upon the odds" with their life is up to them.

[nebula]

 all you have to do is turn on the TV and watch pretty much every single add for prescription medications-from depression meds to allergy meds, they all have this little "heads up" at the end listing all the side effects-and with most of them it even says in "extreme cases may cause death" (yes Ive seen it. repeatedly) Its because these meds, have been proven in certain extreme circumstances to cause death-theres not likely a prescription drug out there that hasn't killed someone somewhere. Its released, with the warnings in all the TV commercials, because the powers that be think the benefits outweigh the risks-and the risks are minimal, but they still want you to make an informed decision, which is why they put the warning label up.

 

Yes, side-effects are mentioned with such ads.

 

But, outside of this forum, have you seen or heard anything about possible side effects of the flu vaccine? How many people are aware of the risks they are taking?

[ayin jade]

 

Medical people do not rely on TV commercials when collecting specific patient medical information regarding a potential  harmful drug.  We collect  and analyze data specific to the patient symptoms and the drug involved.  It's not as simple as you try to make it sound.

 

 

Thats right. Medical people do. And I have. My research, my knowledge, my training etc all shows that the benefits far outweigh the risks of vaccination. I personally think your crusade against vaccines causes harm to others. 

[nikki1]

 

 

Medical people do not rely on TV commercials when collecting specific patient medical information regarding a potential  harmful drug.  We collect  and analyze data specific to the patient symptoms and the drug involved.  It's not as simple as you try to make it sound.

 

 

Thats right. Medical people do. And I have. My research, my knowledge, my training etc all shows that the benefits far outweigh the risks of vaccination. I personally think your crusade against vaccines causes harm to others. 

 

 

 

Your words are the obvious predictable signs of modern medicine's dangerous descent into medical fanaticism and playing God.  Predicable vaccine pushers are dedicated to irrational beliefs that intervening in the immune system's job is better than allowing their God given immune system to do its job it was designed to do.

[nebula]

Hey all - please be careful not to slander each other in your passionate disagreements, OK?

[other one]

 

 

Your words are the obvious predictable signs of modern medicine's dangerous descent into medical fanaticism and playing God.  Predicable vaccine pushers are dedicated to irrational beliefs that intervening in the immune system's job is better than allowing their God given immune system to do its job it was designed to do.

 

are you serious