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What are they reading to accomplish those things....

What are they teaching in history...

Science and math are one thing.... history and social skills are a different story.

Like I said it's the person who hijacks the tool that you need to watch... Looking for answers is a good thing, but looking for hijackers is important also...

 

I agree it is good to look for the hijackers, but to blame common core is akin to blaming the plane for being high jacked

 

ETA...Common core deals with math and language arts at this time.  There is no common core for history or social skills.  Any changes to these areas is the result of the local school and has nothing to do with Common core.

 

The history and social skills are formed under the literacy for "xxxx" heading.    The things we read for literacy skills pass on a lot of things.    History is presently being rewritten and introduced under the stamp of Common Core.....    We had two very good high school history teachers leave teaching over what they had been asked to use in their class....   and it's coming under the Common Core Stamp.

 

hijacked.

 

From my first post I've been saying that common core isn't the problem, but the people who brought it to us are using it as a tool for teaching our kids to be good little socialist global citizens.......   and it will ultimately destroy the fabric of this country....     so if what you want is a conglomerate of States full of global citizens instead of Americans then you should be OK with what's going on.

 

I have several friends who are involved in the state system who are very disturbed with what they see and where it really comes from.   Remember that Janet Napolitano was the person who started the push for this.   Pure socialist globalist at heart..


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What an individual teacher or school districts chooses to use in order to meet the standards is in no way controlled or even tied to common core.  That is an issue that those that belong to the local school district should address.   If a teacher is trying to do the things you mentioned they are doing them with or without common core. Again, blaming common core is a silly as blaming Winchester when one of its guns is used to kill someone.

 

What I want is a school system that is not 36th best in the world...


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Blessings Love......

       Oh boy,I think I listened to 35 or 40 minutes of nothing,,,,it seems nobody is very clear on what exactly is the "common core"except that they are going to have one HS diploma which is academic,kids will either drop out or get into college with the lower standards to enable kids to get into college that are not prepared for the real world or to think for themselves as individuals ,it is not about education at all(....it is about a One World Government that will create an assembly line of robotic humans that say"okay" to whatever they are told

        Maybe I have the wrong picture but that is what I gathered from the whole film.........Lord help us to be that One Nation Under God !

                                                                                                                                              With love-in Christ,Kwik

That is exactly it, you put it all in a nutshell!


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Like everything else common core is simply a tool. It doesn't matter what tool you use or what tool you fight against nothing will change until you get rid of the people holding the tool. If you get rid of this tool and keep the People the next tool will have the same effect

I agree


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I worked for the Chicago Public Schools for 11 years. The last 4 years they were starting to really push common core. That was a part of my breaking point for why I did not want to stay in the public school system. I now work at a daycare. I do not miss having to assistant with teaching the test. It was so stressful.

 

I thought is was ridiculous that children who are in 3rd grade who were taking the ISAT test was being asked to not only solve the math problem, but they are also asked to write in detail how they got their answer.

 

It was already bad enough that they are taking the test for the first time. Many of them still have not grasp the concept of how to use the answer sheet to grid in the answers. So, now they have to write in detail how they come up with that answer? I sensed much frustration with the 3rd graders.

 

Common Core has taken away from the teachers own ideas. I pray for our school system in this country.

 

 

Go to the countries at the top of the student rankings and I bet their 3rd graders can fill out a an answer sheet.  It is time we quit babying our students and got back to teaching them.

 

This is not about teaching them standards of solving problems alone,  if it were they would be problems that would be appropiate for their developmental stages. It is about conformity and teaching them to do as they are told and not question what they are being told to do. You have to pull the mask off of the problem to see the true adgenda being pushed.


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What are they reading to accomplish those things....

What are they teaching in history...

Science and math are one thing.... history and social skills are a different story.

Like I said it's the person who hijacks the tool that you need to watch... Looking for answers is a good thing, but looking for hijackers is important also...

 

I agree it is good to look for the hijackers, but to blame common core is akin to blaming the plane for being high jacked

 

ETA...Common core deals with math and language arts at this time.  There is no common core for history or social skills.  Any changes to these areas is the result of the local school and has nothing to do with Common core.

 

The history and social skills are formed under the literacy for "xxxx" heading.    The things we read for literacy skills pass on a lot of things.    History is presently being rewritten and introduced under the stamp of Common Core.....    We had two very good high school history teachers leave teaching over what they had been asked to use in their class....   and it's coming under the Common Core Stamp.

 

hijacked.

 

From my first post I've been saying that common core isn't the problem, but the people who brought it to us are using it as a tool for teaching our kids to be good little socialist global citizens.......   and it will ultimately destroy the fabric of this country....     so if what you want is a conglomerate of States full of global citizens instead of Americans then you should be OK with what's going on.

 

I have several friends who are involved in the state system who are very disturbed with what they see and where it really comes from.   Remember that Janet Napolitano was the person who started the push for this.   Pure socialist globalist at heart..

 

very well put :)


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Teacher’s resignation letter: ‘My profession … no longer exists’

 

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With regard to my profession, I have truly attempted to live John Dewey’s famous quotation (now likely cliché with me, I’ve used it so very often) that  “Education is not preparation for life, education is life itself.” This type of total immersion is what I have always referred to as teaching “heavy,” working hard, spending time, researching, attending to details and never feeling satisfied that I knew enough on any topic. I now find that this approach to my profession is not only devalued, but denigrated and perhaps, in some quarters despised. STEM rules the day and “data driven” education seeks only conformity, standardization, testing and a zombie-like adherence to the shallow and generic Common Core, along with a lockstep of oversimplified so-called Essential Learnings. Creativity, academic freedom, teacher autonomy, experimentation and innovation are being stifled in a misguided effort to fix what is not broken in our system of public education and particularly not at Westhill.

 

A long train of failures has brought us to this unfortunate pass. In their pursuit of Federal tax dollars, our legislators have failed us by selling children out to private industries such as Pearson Education. The New York State United Teachers union has let down its membership by failing to mount a much more effective and vigorous campaign against this same costly and dangerous debacle. Finally, it is with sad reluctance that I say our own administration has been both uncommunicative and unresponsive to the concerns and needs of our staff and students by establishing testing and evaluation systems that are Byzantine at best and at worst, draconian. This situation has been exacerbated by other actions of the administration, in either refusing to call open forum meetings to discuss these pressing issues, or by so constraining the time limits of such meetings that little more than a conveying of information could take place. This lack of leadership at every level has only served to produce confusion, a loss of confidence and a dramatic and rapid decaying of morale. The repercussions of these ill-conceived policies will be telling and shall resound to the detriment of education for years to come. The analogy that this process is like building the airplane while we are flying would strike terror in the heart of anyone should it be applied to an actual airplane flight, a medical procedure, or even a home repair. Why should it be acceptable in our careers and in the education of our children?

 

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/04/06/teachers-resignation-letter-my-profession-no-longer-exists/


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I worked for the Chicago Public Schools for 11 years. The last 4 years they were starting to really push common core. That was a part of my breaking point for why I did not want to stay in the public school system. I now work at a daycare. I do not miss having to assistant with teaching the test. It was so stressful.

 

I thought is was ridiculous that children who are in 3rd grade who were taking the ISAT test was being asked to not only solve the math problem, but they are also asked to write in detail how they got their answer.

 

It was already bad enough that they are taking the test for the first time. Many of them still have not grasp the concept of how to use the answer sheet to grid in the answers. So, now they have to write in detail how they come up with that answer? I sensed much frustration with the 3rd graders.

 

Common Core has taken away from the teachers own ideas. I pray for our school system in this country.

 

 

Go to the countries at the top of the student rankings and I bet their 3rd graders can fill out a an answer sheet.  It is time we quit babying our students and got back to teaching them.

 

This is not about teaching them standards of solving problems alone,  if it were they would be problems that would be appropiate for their developmental stages. It is about conformity and teaching them to do as they are told and not question what they are being told to do. You have to pull the mask off of the problem to see the true adgenda being pushed.

 

 

Yes, that is what common core is about.  There is nothing in Common Core that has anything to do with doing as they are told or not questioning anything.  People are fighting a strawman.  The ironic part here is that half the complaints about Common Core is that in the math area kids have to explain why, not just solve the problem.  They have to THINK and not just do like we had taught kids to do in math for the last few decades.  At the same time common core is making kids think to much and then making them not think at all.  That has to be hard to do.   I think people need to find new sources of news and information.


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The question of supporting Common Core should be a non-starter -  it shouldn't even exist.  It would appear that more and more states are changing their minds and dropping it. 

 

The Department of Education shouldn't exist, either.  Arnie Duncan should crawl back under whatever rock he came from. 


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Why should their not be a common core? Why should states not be able to join forces and come up with a plan to try and improve upon that elephant in the room....our students being 36th in the world. Is that good enough for you?

Why should states not be allowed to try and have some common standards so a student transfering from Mississippi to Wyoming will have the same basic math skills?

But I do agree about the Dept of Ed. There is no value gained from it, thus it should go

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