Should we declare war against ISIL or any of the terrorist groups

[Guest LadyC]

oh come on babbler. we can't even convince half of america that obama pulled the troops out of iraq because now he says he didn't.... how on earth do you think we can convince the world the truth about muhammad?

 

bombs are much more efficient.

[ayin jade]

 

Onelight, there are plenty of american citizens who support isis. How do you propose getting rid of them?

If they decide to start killing innocent people, since we cannot send them "back home", lock them up for the rest of their lives. They need to be dealt with in a strong manner, or they will just continue to do as they please.

What do you suggest, AJ? How would you try to resolve the issue?

 

 

I already mentioned that I was at a loss. The only option they would understand is brute force and Im reluctant to do that, Yet I do not want to see violence here.

[OneLight]

Onelight, there are plenty of american citizens who support isis. How do you propose getting rid of them?

If they decide to start killing innocent people, since we cannot send them "back home", lock them up for the rest of their lives. They need to be dealt with in a strong manner, or they will just continue to do as they please.

What do you suggest, AJ? How would you try to resolve the issue?

 

I already mentioned that I was at a loss. The only option they would understand is brute force and Im reluctant to do that, Yet I do not want to see violence here.

Sorry if I missed that. I really don' think anyone who loves God wants brute force, yet, what did He tell His people in the OT when another group was going to destroy them?

[The_Patriot21]

I dont think we should want brute force, but on the same not we shouldn't be afraid of it either. We live in a violent world-sometimes violence will find us and those we care about, and often the only way to stop a violent person is with violence. A evil person is not afraid to use violence to gain his own means-a just person will only use violence to stop the evil person.

[Burning_Ember]

hmmm, BE, i don't recall him accusing YOU of having said that. don't take generalizations so personally.

I posed the question as to why people join militia/terrorist groups, shiloh talking about why liberals are terrorist sympathizers. That doesn't really further the discussion. Keeping the subject on why people would join such an organization does.

 

 

 

Onelight, there are plenty of american citizens who support isis. How do you propose getting rid of them?

If they decide to start killing innocent people, since we cannot send them "back home", lock them up for the rest of their lives. They need to be dealt with in a strong manner, or they will just continue to do as they please.

What do you suggest, AJ? How would you try to resolve the issue?

 

 

I already mentioned that I was at a loss. The only option they would understand is brute force and Im reluctant to do that, Yet I do not want to see violence here.

 

The only real long term solution is to create stability in Iraq and Syria so that ISIS doesn't have a power vacuum to take advantage of. As for Iraq, that power vacuum was formed when Saddam was removed from power. One huge step in the right direction would be to apply as much pressure as possible to make sure both Sunni and Shia Muslims are allowed to be in government. Another would be to get as many other governments in the area to focus on improving quality of life, security, and anti-terrorism measures. A ground war would be one of the worst options.

[1x1is1]

They said on the news that it was going to take a few months to vet the Syrian rebels we need to train and then it was going to take another 8-12 months to train them.  No one else is really stepping into help in any real meaningful way.  Not even the french are really going to do all that much.  The Arab nations are pretty much out to lunch, and this administration is taking the long way around in order to deal with these cockroaches

 

Obama says we will degrade and destroy ISIS.  So which is it?  Those are two different goals.  What's the mission?  Are we going to degrade them or destroy them?   You need degrade what you intend to destroy.

 

this is why you don't want far-left liberal ideologues in charge of anything.  They don't know what they are doing.  They don't know how to lead or,  how get anything done.  They are completely useless as leaders. 

 

When Obama was taking his victory laps after the Iraq war, he would sound off with.......al-qaeda is on the run because we decimated them.   But then he found out that decimate means to kill every 10th soldier.  So 90% of them are on the run?  Really?   We should not be surprised when this fellow comes along with these new terminologies that can cover many meanings just in case he needs to back track.  And watch out when he says.....no boots on the ground,PERIOD!  At least he evolved a bit from just last week stating that we should "contain" isis.

[coheir]

How does one go to war against an ideology?  They are not a country with boundaries.  This would take us to where ever they are and place us in danger with harming relations with other countries.  What needs to be done is to build the security at home so they are found and removed before they cause harm.

Possibly by recording/storing  all voice call data, Cameras/microphones every where, recording all internet sites one may visit even comments made online.  This a couple things one would use , I think.

[Guest LadyC]

 

hmmm, BE, i don't recall him accusing YOU of having said that. don't take generalizations so personally.

I posed the question as to why people join militia/terrorist groups, shiloh talking about why liberals are terrorist sympathizers. That doesn't really further the discussion. Keeping the subject on why people would join such an organization does.

 

 

 

Onelight, there are plenty of american citizens who support isis. How do you propose getting rid of them?

If they decide to start killing innocent people, since we cannot send them "back home", lock them up for the rest of their lives. They need to be dealt with in a strong manner, or they will just continue to do as they please.

What do you suggest, AJ? How would you try to resolve the issue?

 

 

I already mentioned that I was at a loss. The only option they would understand is brute force and Im reluctant to do that, Yet I do not want to see violence here.

 

The only real long term solution is to create stability in Iraq and Syria so that ISIS doesn't have a power vacuum to take advantage of. As for Iraq, that power vacuum was formed when Saddam was removed from power. One huge step in the right direction would be to apply as much pressure as possible to make sure both Sunni and Shia Muslims are allowed to be in government. Another would be to get as many other governments in the area to focus on improving quality of life, security, and anti-terrorism measures. A ground war would be one of the worst options.

 

 

yes, you asked why americans were joining isis. he answered your question. because liberals are frequently terrorist sympathizers. that IS an answer to your question, but it was NOT a direct attack on you.

[other one]

Onelight, there are plenty of american citizens who support isis. How do you propose getting rid of them?

 

Onelight, there are plenty of american citizens who support isis. How do you propose getting rid of them?

Lethal Injection????   

 

 

 

 

not really...

[other one]

the current islamic population in the US is less then 1%. just thought id point that out. Also though we were already at war with terrorism. . .in any case Im not to worried about whether my insurance covers terrorism. From what ive seen overseas-if a terrorist attacks my home (unlikely) Im either going to be dead or he is. . .

unless you are at work....   or on vacation...