Sevenseas Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well I totally agree. As do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You want to wipe ISIS out? You want to kill them? Fast and pray against the spirit behind ISIS, the true enemy. Many follow false gods which are the principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places! Fight against them, not the flesh who follow them. Leave them to God. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. As for those who are in harms way, they have all the right to defend themselves, and if they ask for help, to help them. Your heart is in a war, but not against those who are controlled by the enemy, but the enemy themselves. So let's just disband the entire US Military, then. We don't need the military to defend us, by your logic. You are completely misapplying that passage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You want to wipe ISIS out? You want to kill them? Fast and pray against the spirit behind ISIS, the true enemy. Many follow false gods which are the principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places! Fight against them, not the flesh who follow them. Leave them to God. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. As for those who are in harms way, they have all the right to defend themselves, and if they ask for help, to help them. Your heart is in a war, but not against those who are controlled by the enemy, but the enemy themselves. So let's just disband the entire US Military, then. We don't need the military to defend us, by your logic. You are completely misapplying that passage. No one has said anything about not fighting the scourge that is IS. What some of us are saying is that praying to God to kill someone is not what we agree with. Read OneLight's post again. Especially the last paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You want to wipe ISIS out? You want to kill them? Fast and pray against the spirit behind ISIS, the true enemy. Many follow false gods which are the principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places! Fight against them, not the flesh who follow them. Leave them to God. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. As for those who are in harms way, they have all the right to defend themselves, and if they ask for help, to help them. Your heart is in a war, but not against those who are controlled by the enemy, but the enemy themselves. So let's just disband the entire US Military, then. We don't need the military to defend us, by your logic. You are completely misapplying that passage. No one has said anything about not fighting the scourge that is IS. What some of us are saying is that praying to God to kill someone is not what we agree with. Read OneLight's post again. Especially the last paragraph. I see nothing wrong with wiping them out, personally. I personally think that ISIS needs to be destroyed, every last one of them. The way you end this is to make the price higher than ISIS wants to pay. The way you win is to respond to them with such overwhelming ferocity that they despair of further conflict and then render them nothing but a distant memory. We need stop treating this problem like it is theological concept and actually go in and destroy the enemy and then set up a status of forces agreement that will prevent this from happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You want to wipe ISIS out? You want to kill them? Fast and pray against the spirit behind ISIS, the true enemy. Many follow false gods which are the principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places! Fight against them, not the flesh who follow them. Leave them to God. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. As for those who are in harms way, they have all the right to defend themselves, and if they ask for help, to help them. Your heart is in a war, but not against those who are controlled by the enemy, but the enemy themselves. So let's just disband the entire US Military, then. We don't need the military to defend us, by your logic. You are completely misapplying that passage. No one has said anything about not fighting the scourge that is IS. What some of us are saying is that praying to God to kill someone is not what we agree with. Read OneLight's post again. Especially the last paragraph. I see nothing wrong with wiping them out, personally. I personally think that ISIS needs to be destroyed, every last one of them. The way you end this is to make the price higher than ISIS wants to pay. The way you win is to respond to them with such overwhelming ferocity that they despair of further conflict and then render them nothing but a distant memory. We need stop treating this problem like it is theological concept and actually go in and destroy the enemy and then set up a status of forces agreement that will prevent this from happening again. I have no argument with this. They are already on the back foot and are a bunch of thugs acting like a cornered rat. The recent killing of 13 soldiers and another hostage (as tragic and barbaric as they may have been), is no more that a act of desperation. Take Mosul and IS falls, and that is the obvious strategy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 This thread reminds me a little of what I was reading in Ezekiel today... : 17 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself. 20 “Again, when a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before them, they will die. Since you did n t warn them, they will die for their sin. The righteous things that person did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 21 But if you do warn the righteous person not to sin and they do not sin, they will surely live because they took warning, and you will have saved yourself.” 22 The hand of the Lord was on me there, and he said to me, “Get up and go out to the plain, and there I will speak to you.” 23 So I got up and went out to the plain. And the glory of the Lord was standing there, like the glory I had seen by the Kebar River, and I fell facedown. 24 Then the Spirit came into me and raised me to my feet. He spoke to me and said: “Go, shut yourself inside your house. 25 And you, son of man, they will tie with ropes; you will be bound so that you cannot go out among the people. 26 I will make your tongue stick to the roof of your mouth so that you will be silent and unable to rebuke them, for they are a rebellious people. 27 But when I speak to you, I will open your mouth and you shall say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says.’ Whoever will listen let them listen, and whoever will refuse let them refuse; for they are a rebellious people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,277 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,010 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 You want to wipe ISIS out? You want to kill them? Fast and pray against the spirit behind ISIS, the true enemy. Many follow false gods which are the principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places! Fight against them, not the flesh who follow them. Leave them to God. Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. As for those who are in harms way, they have all the right to defend themselves, and if they ask for help, to help them. Your heart is in a war, but not against those who are controlled by the enemy, but the enemy themselves. So let's just disband the entire US Military, then. We don't need the military to defend us, by your logic. You are completely misapplying that passage. Come now, Brother. You know very well that is not what I am saying. Why are you stooping to this level? Reread what I posted without the blinders on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,277 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,010 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 16, 2014 one needs to decide what one is going to do when the fight comes to us here.... the Muslim Brotherhood is responsible for ISIL and they have made it very plain that they intend to destroy western civilization...... (clue) that's including us. They are among us today just waiting until they get strong enough to push us over the edge...... and the way our government is responding to the thread, we have no chance of winning.... we can't even identify them as an enemy without being sued.... It's not likely to happen this week or next week, but it's growing and unless something changes it's inevitable to physically fight them here or submit to Allah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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