Adams fault??

[Hippie333]

 

So are you saying God can not judge angels himself so he needed us to do it?

 

 

If so, why would He have created us all in the first place knowing that ultimately many would not choose Him.

To judge the Angels.

 

 

While it not being the only reason we were created....it's on the list. Did God have to ? of course not...and I am sure that's not what Otherone is stating either.

 

 

God Bless,

Hip

[Hippie333]

@WorthyWatchmen

 

I am not sure the context in these very selective verses that are directed at very different situations, answers my question. 

 

we are made for gods glory, he wishes that none would perish yet still knowing the end and that many would perish and that many would not choose him, he chooses to continue to create people and and subjugate them to his ruling knowing that they will not choose him, then forcing them to pay an eternal price for their lack of belief?

 

I still havn't made sense of this yet. I believe in Gods sovereignty and ultimately in his justice. I have a hard time with this though.

 

I am not saying he is not fair. I am just saying that i haven't found a way to understand his purposes. Not that i need to, but still the questions remain. I believe that we are the glory of an almighty God. I also am starting to believe that God has from the begining knes who would choose him as we have actually be created to do so (john 10:27, Romans 8:28-30, Ephesians 1:4,5,11).

 

This being the case, I wonder if even though God loves the world and wishes that none would perish, that the world and its inhabitants have only been created, ultimately, to be destroyed in efforts to gain the attention of the elect.

Ultimately in God's justice....is judgement. Do you think that those that would be destroyed ( face wrath/judgement) were created to face that or created to have the choice not to? Knowing the outcome of man's choices and what they eventually face....is still in the end...man's choice is it not?

 

 

God Bless,

Hip

[Guest]

Ultimately in God's justice....is judgement.

 

Do you think that those that would be destroyed ( face wrath/judgement) were created

 

to face that or created to have the choice not to?

 

Knowing the outcome of man's choices

 

and what they eventually face....

 

is still in the end...

 

man's choice is it not?

 

 

Amen~!

 

True, some of them were unfaithful; but just because they were unfaithful, does that mean God will be unfaithful?

 

Of course not! Even if everyone else is a liar, God is true. As the Scriptures say about him,

 

“You will be proved right in what you say,

 

and you will win your case in court.”Romans 3:3-4 (NLT)

[Guest]

I wonder if even though God loves the world and wishes that none would perish....

 

that the world and its inhabitants have only been created, ultimately....

 

to be destroyed in efforts to gain the attention....

 

of the elect.....

 

 

Beloved

 

The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life. Revelation 22:17 (NIV)

 

Please Don't Mix The Choices Sinners Make

 

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil,

 

neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted,

 

when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

 

Then when lust hath conceived,

 

it bringeth forth sin:

 

and sin,

 

when it is finished,

 

bringeth forth death. Jude 1:13-15

 

In With God's Character

 

Do not err, my beloved brethren.

 

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,

 

and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Jude 1:16-17

 

You See?

 

Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:12

[Hezekiah Holbrooke]

What amazes me is that Adam let Eve get  away from him for such a distance or for so long a time. He must have fallen asleep or something.

You can bet he'd been doing the "Me Tarzan - You Jane" routine. Can you imagine a woman built and put together by the very hand of God?

Eve must certainly have been a beauty.  Old Adam's toenails must have been curled up to his knees.

 

Yes, Adam tried to squirm out of it but he did admit to eating. Sometimes I think he was hedging that God would have destroyed Eve but with his eating too, maybe God would

not destroy them. It was either that or he was so smitten by Eve that he's rather go ahead and die than live without her.

 

I have to believe God knew they would disobey all along. God didn't even need to call out to Adam as to where Adam was. God already knew where Adam was and what he and Eve had done.

[other one]

So are you saying God can not judge angels himself so he needed us to do it?

If so, why would He have created us all in the first place knowing that ultimately many would not choose Him.

To judge the Angels.

I don't have a clue. I just know that Paul says we are going to judge the angels. I'm not near knowledged enough to know the mind of God.

[coheir]

1 Tim 2:14

And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.