Je Suis Charlie

[OakWood]

  It is evident that you have never read about Christian history ,bloodthirsty history. The protestants of Britain killed millions of 

 

  Irish ,as did the Catholics of Spain nd so on . Many Jews ill tell you that they never lived so peacefully as under certain  moslem

 

  cmmunities ,but there are invested interests at a high level which needs to divide and conquer .On reading this site ,it is evident that

 

  many need some history lessons;If Christ was loving and peaceful ,most of His followers have been ignorant and agressive

 

  towards foreign  communities ,exploiting them to make themselves rich . 

 

Such foolish words. It doesn't matter what some so-called Christians have done historically. The teachings of the Bible do not endorse their behaviour whereas the teachings of Islam DO endorse violence and that is the difference.

As for history lessons, I think you are the one in need of them.

[Fez]

Thallasa will not be taking part in this thread, so please don't expect answers.

[Guest]

One man's " terrorists", are another man's "freedom fighters"....

 

 

In my opinion the terrorists are often  people who have been invaded by others stealing their property and killing their  children....

 

I know that Islam is not as Advanced as Christianity,but sometimes one would think that the most hateful were the  Christians....

 

who seem to advance a message of hate rather than love....

 

 

Many people in Muslim countries are simple kind....

 

but how can they know true Christianity....

 

if they are invaded....

 

and killed....

 

by so called "Christian" countries....

 

 

I do believe  that loving your neighbor extends to Muslims....

 

and that ignorance of history and  other countries is no longer acceptable in the age of the internet....

 

~

 

Beloved, Islam Is Not The First To Mock Both The Jews And The Followers Of Christ

 

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

 

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Matthew 5:44-45

 

January 9, 2015 by Daniel Greenfield

 

Cherif Kouachi dodges the question because he’s defining civilians differently than the West does. He doesn’t mean citizens or unarmed people. His Islamic honor code justifies murdering people who violate Islamic law.

 

Muslims don’t like having their actions described in such stark terms. They want to see themselves as heroes. As knights of the Jihad, instead of cowardly murderers who not only kill civilians, but hide behind them. http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/are-you-planning-on-killing-again-in-the-name-of-allah/

 

Nor Will They Be The Last

(And Yes Beloved, There Are Believing Messianic Jews~!)

 

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2 Timothy 3:12

 

Sunday, October 15, 2000.

 

"Palestinian Television continued over the weekend to re-broadcast excerpts from a Friday sermon in the Zayed bin Sultan Aal Nahyan mosque in Gaza. 

 

Translation supplied by The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI):

 

'The Jews are Jews, whether Labor or Likud...  They do not have any moderates or any advocates of peace.  They are all liars...  they are the terrorists.  They are the ones who must be butchered and killed, as Allah the Almighty said:  'Fight them: Allah will torture them at your hands, and will humiliate them and will  help you to overcome them, and will relieve the minds of the believers...' " http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1418.cfm

 

But

 

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23

 

Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 35 It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. (19:34-35, Yusif Ali) http://carm.org/what-does-islam-and-quran-say-about-jesus

 

They Are Loved

 

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

 

Muslims dispute the fact of Jesus' crucifixion, arguing that Allah would never have dishonored His prophet by allowing Him to undergo such a death. Muslims believe that Jesus was miraculously caught up into heaven and that someone (perhaps Judas Iscariot) surreptitiously took His place on the cross. http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aiia/islam-cross.html

 

And They Are Adored

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

Muhammad is Allah's greatest and last prophet, and his message supercedes all other past prophets including Jesus. http://carm.org/doctrines-of-islam

 

By The Very Christ Their Islam Blasphemes

 

Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

 

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

 

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

 

She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. John 11:24-27

 

If your good deeds exceed your bad deeds and you believe in Allah and sincerely repent of sins, you may go to heaven (3:135; 7:8-9; 21:47; 49:14; 66:8-9). http://carm.org/doctrines-of-islam

 

~

 

Be Blessed Beloved

 

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

 

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

 

Love, Your Brother Joe

[Guest LadyC]

   One man's " terrorists", are another man's "freedom fighters" .

 

  In my opinion the terrorists are often  people who have been invaded by others stealing their property and killing their

 

  children. I know that Islam is not as Advanced as Christianity,but sometimes one would think that the most hateful were the

 

  Christians ,who seem to advance a message of hate rather than love ;Many people in moslem countries are simple kind ,

 

  but how can they know true christianity, if they are invaded and killed by so called "christian countries .

 

 I do believe  that loving your neighbout extends to moslems,and that ignorance of history and

 

 other countries is no longer acceptable in the age of the internet .

 

please give me some examples of how Christians adance a message of hate. 

and can you please share with us what you believe in regard to Christ?

[Guest LadyC]

ahhh, i see i should have read the rest of the thread before asking my questions. sorry fez!

[gamnot]

I think that the people at Charlie Hebdo were lacking in common sense to publish their derogatory cartoons the way that they did, but of course the malignant attack is completely unacceptable. There is a difference between malignant aggression and self-defensive aggression and it takes competence to distinguish between the two as well as pseudo-aggression which may appear to be something that it is not. Not all aggression should be considered equal, but that is something many people do. I think that the attacks by the USA against isis is motived by the desire to help people.

[other one]

I think that the people at Charlie Hebdo were lacking in common sense to publish their derogatory cartoons the way that they did, but of course the malignant attack is completely unacceptable. There is a difference between malignant aggression and self-defensive aggression and it takes competence to distinguish between the two as well as pseudo-aggression which may appear to be something that it is not. Not all aggression should be considered equal, but that is something many people do. I think that the attacks by the USA against isis is motived by the desire to help people.

if people didn't buy their cartoons, they would not have been in business......     so you may not have appreciated them (nor did I) but we must not say that they can't publish them....    I will say that if we don't all stand up to Islam, sooner or later we will submit to them.

  That's the story of history.