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Yeah if the country elects another leftist like Obama, all is pretty much lost.


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You think the next election will be better. Is hillary be better if she wins. Will the next be worse. 

Are you saying that Hillary Clinton should be president?


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You think the next election will be better. Is hillary be better if she wins. Will the next be worse. 

Are you saying that Hillary Clinton should be president?

 

 

Hillary has all ready bought new curtains and carpet, just saying.  :26:

But then no one voted for Obama .  :whistling:

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Tigger, you  might want to spend some time proofreading your posts.  I could not make out what you'r e  saying/asking.   Grammar check your posts, please.


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I think she is saying that Hillary will win if she runs, I personally agree with that.  This nation has turned, the numbers are no longer in favor of conservative values.  The fact that Obama was re-elected after such a poor first term is evidence of that to me.

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I wouldn't be too sure about that.   The Dems have an immense amount of baggage coming into this election.  Unlike 2012, the debate over Obamacare is no longer an academic one.  He has so many scandals and blunders and there is so much failure on the part of Dems, and nothing they have championed as succeeded that it is not going to be that easy for them.   He has done nothing for minorities in this country, at least nothing that has helped them to the degree they were looking forward to.   African Americans are no better off under him and all he has done is create more dependency on the government.  Unemployment is still really bad and the jobs created are not good jobs or jobs that create prosperity.  He has nothing to point to with real pride that has made the nation better. 

 

The Dems have a lot to explain and nothing to brag on.  I am hoping that the Republicans can exploit that.


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I wouldn't be too sure about that.   The Dems have an immense amount of baggage coming into this election.  Unlike 2012, the debate over Obamacare is no longer an academic one.  He has so many scandals and blunders and there is so much failure on the part of Dems, and nothing they have championed as succeeded that it is not going to be that easy for them.   He has done nothing for minorities in this country, at least nothing that has helped them to the degree they were looking forward to.   African Americans are no better off under him and all he has done is create more dependency on the government.  Unemployment is still really bad and the jobs created are not good jobs or jobs that create prosperity.  He has nothing to point to with real pride that has made the nation better. 

 

The Dems have a lot to explain and nothing to brag on.  I am hoping that the Republicans can exploit that.

 

 

I agree with you, just not sure the masses see it the same way.  A lot of those people who are dependent on the govt are the same ones who vote democratic to begin with, so they don't want their free ride to end.  I do hope that the alternative choice can exploit these obvious blunders, but if Romney or McCain are the best the GOP has to offer, I don't see either of them winning.  I know I cannot vote for either of those two, so I guess we'll see who gets the nomination.  As of now, for me personally, Carson is the front runner if he decides to run.


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I wouldn't be too sure about that.   The Dems have an immense amount of baggage coming into this election.  Unlike 2012, the debate over Obamacare is no longer an academic one.  He has so many scandals and blunders and there is so much failure on the part of Dems, and nothing they have championed as succeeded that it is not going to be that easy for them.   He has done nothing for minorities in this country, at least nothing that has helped them to the degree they were looking forward to.   African Americans are no better off under him and all he has done is create more dependency on the government.  Unemployment is still really bad and the jobs created are not good jobs or jobs that create prosperity.  He has nothing to point to with real pride that has made the nation better. 

 

The Dems have a lot to explain and nothing to brag on.  I am hoping that the Republicans can exploit that.

 

The republicans are as much at fault here. Over the past 7 decades they have partially to totally caved to nearly every progressive agenda item that the democrats have brought up. The whole name of the game is dependency on government and it is endemic. At the core is redistribution and that is what everything hinges on here. The number of voters and politicians within the republican party that think progressive redistribution of wealth is just fine is too high a hurdle to overcome unless minds are changed. Hand in hand with this comes the social changes we see. I'm not sure exactly why the two seem to be so correlated, but they obviously are. The republicans, right now, are democrat lite. They may win in 2016, they may lose, but if they win with a Romney or a Bush, there isn't even any point, it's not even prolonging the inevitable. Romney signed all sort of detrimental socialist legislation in Mass. and magically became a "conservative" when he realized he needed to be one to have a shot at the republican nomination. Conservatives are mostly just conservatives in name only now, though. There are buzzwords you have to say, things people think they believe to make themselves feel better, but the fact of the matter is that your average conservative voter is fine with chunks of socialism here and there. As long as that is the case, we will continue the slide.


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I think she is saying that Hillary will win if she runs, I personally agree with that.  This nation has turned, the numbers are no longer in favor of conservative values.  The fact that Obama was re-elected after such a poor first term is evidence of that to me.

 

Was typing to fast on that post.   :t2:

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The Republicans have their own problems and challenges to face, but for the last 6 years, the Democrats have held the majority in the  Senate and have held the Executive branch so the lion's share of the blame rests on the Dems not on the Republicans.  The Dems allowed over 300 bills from the House to sit under Harry's desk and never come to a vote and Obama has had so many people shield him from tough questions and Harry Reid protected Obama's agenda by never allowing anything from the House to come to a vote, particularly any modification or the removal of any part of Obamacare.

 

The Dems are going to have a much harder time at it, and we cannot go off of the past because there are variables in play today that were not in existence at that time, particularly the failure of the healthcare law.  

 

Hillary Clinton is a wash up.  She has so much baggage, it is unbelievable that she would run.  Her reset with Russia was a joke, she did nothing as Sec of State except travel the world for weeks at a time.  She is drunk, she has been shielded from really having to be accountable for the Ben Ghazi affair even though the buck stops with her on that.   She has lied on camera more than once and says that we need to respect our enemies as if our enemies have a perspective that we need to understand.  She is far left progressive not unlike Obama.

 

Yeah, I guess if you hate America, hate freedom and prosperity, vote for Hillary Clinton.

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