signs and wonder are what exactley?

[Hearing1]

After being scared downtrodden ,humbled, broken and rejected THEN HE SHOWED ME That GOD ISREAL!

GODISRAEL

[gdemoss]

The same book that says thou shalt not kill says there is a time to kill. Yes it says thou shalt not test the Lord thy God yet there is a time to test. My problem is that I am not qualified to know exactly when things are appropriate and therefore it is best for me to exercise caution.

It's my understanding that in the Hebrew that really says not to commit murder. it doesn't say do not kill.

Lol. Yes otherone that is what it says. Do you deny my point?

[other one]

 

 

The same book that says thou shalt not kill says there is a time to kill. Yes it says thou shalt not test the Lord thy God yet there is a time to test. My problem is that I am not qualified to know exactly when things are appropriate and therefore it is best for me to exercise caution.

It's my understanding that in the Hebrew that really says not to commit murder. it doesn't say do not kill.

Lol. Yes otherone that is what it says. Do you deny my point?

 

there is a difference in Murder and killing.   maybe I missed something...

 

As for the testing I think I would need to see the actual scripture, for we are to test things to see if they are from God, but we should never test God.      At least that's my overall understanding concerning it.

[Guest]

A miracle is different how from a healing? What is a wonder....

 

A sign I think is a back up. An added proof. Etc. Etc. Etc....

 

I would love a clear cut definition to these things....

 

 

 

Signs And Wonders

 

Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. Luke 7:22

 

And The Finger

 

But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you. Luke 11:20

 

Of God

 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. John 14:12

[Kan]

A miracle is different how from a healing? What is a wonder. A sign I think is a back up. An added proof. Etc. Etc. Etc. I would love a clear cut definition to these things.

 

Miracle - something supernatural

Healing - something supernatural

Wonder - something supernatural

Sign - something supernatural

 

A piece of fruit growing on a tree is a miracle and wholesome, a wonder and it is a sign of God's power and love.

But because it happens everyday people don't think it is supernatural, and yet it is a demonstration of the power of the Creator.

 

So the whole world is filled with miraculous, wholesome, wonderful, meaningful things which go by unappreciated, by "a wicked and perverse generation (which) seeketh after a sign."

 

The line between nature and the power of God is only drawn in the head.

 

Yet God in His mercy performs miracles to help the faith of many.

But a hardened generation like in the days of Pharaoh will believe the devil's miracles, while denying God's signs.

 

So then, miracles have an impact dependent on what controls the human mind.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Pamela....

         I agree with Kan,everyday that God allows us to wake up to see a new day is by His Mercy & simply put,a Miracle.............looking through the eyes of our hearts we can see much more clearly than those right above our noses,looking at things manifested by the Power of the Holy Spirit of God are not easily recognized by the flesh,or appreciated or Understood...........All Gods Works are beyond our comprehension,,,,,,,as we grow closer & closer in relationship with Him we receive the heart & Mind of Christ....as we walk in Spirit & in Truth,,,,,,

       The difference between a Miracle & a Healing?    A Healing is a Miracle,even when a paper cut heals.....

        A Wonder?It is a Wonder God loves us so much He took our place on the cross.......

        A Sign......      The Parting of the red Sea,both a Sign & a Wonder AND a Miracle!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

King James Bible
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.    Psalm 19:1  

 

                

 

Praise & Glory to God..........                                           With love-in Christ,Kwik

[Pamelasv]

It does seem like the lines are blurred with some of these things as in kwikphilly's post. I think tho these 'supernatural' things are called that because they are out of the ordinary. You couldnt argue that with an unbeliever, they would have to freak out with something 'supernatural' to stutter and say it is resulted from evolution. And to prove of course Jesus words He backed them up with signs in the form of wonders healings miracles. Curious to know what a wonder is. What is a wonder? I wonder...

Edited March 28, 2015 by Pamelasv

[Pamelasv]

Sorry, I couln 't resist.

[gdemoss]

The same book that says thou shalt not kill says there is a time to kill. Yes it says thou shalt not test the Lord thy God yet there is a time to test. My problem is that I am not qualified to know exactly when things are appropriate and therefore it is best for me to exercise caution.

It's my understanding that in the Hebrew that really says not to commit murder. it doesn't say do not kill.

Lol. Yes otherone that is what it says. Do you deny my point?

there is a difference in Murder and killing. maybe I missed something...

As for the testing I think I would need to see the actual scripture, for we are to test things to see if they are from God, but we should never test God. At least that's my overall understanding concerning it.

Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God is not an unattached blanket command. It was written with a specific purpose using a specific incident as an example. The New Testament also carries an example of the tempting of God by Annanias and his wife.

As with all things it becomes easy to misunderstand by poor interpretation of the text. You obviously are one who has come to an understanding concerning the killing issue but many have not. There are scores of other texts that seemingly do the same thing.

My point, which you prove, is that an indepth study of the scriptures is necessary to avoid misunderstanding what is being said. This includes what it means to tempt the Lord. Thou shalt not tempt the Lord must be tempered with the evidence in scripture of those who seemingly tempted the Lord and were held blameless by God. Gideon put God to the test and was given honor. Annanias tested God and paid with his life.

There is a time to test and a time not to test. I am no different with my own children. They may prove me in certain circumstances yet not in others.

Pam, Creation is the Sign that God spoke.

Wonders will make one wander as did Abraham when he met the Wonderful one who proved him.

A miracle is a primary particle that leads to peace. A reflection of God and his love.

Jesus preformed all kinds of signs, wonders and miracles in his time here upon the earth. I have personally witnessed the impossible made possible through God as have others I have known. But even the disciples witnessed great marvels yet were slow to believe.

[Kan]

... I think tho these 'supernatural' things are called that because they are out of the ordinary. You couldn't argue that with an unbeliever, they would have to freak out with something 'supernatural' to stutter and say it is resulted from evolution. And to prove of course Jesus words He backed them up with signs in the form of wonders healings miracles. Curious to know what a wonder is. What is a wonder? I wonder...

 

That's thought provoking.

Personally, I don't see any difference between Jesus healing someone and the grass growing. But, yes to many there is a big difference between the ordinary and the extraordinary. I have not always accepted God's hand in everything, and so I was continuously asking God for various things to prove to me that I had His attention, and of course God gave me lots and lots of evidence, but you get to a stage where you cease to question His love or attention, never soon enough. Besides a miracle or sign or wonder can be doubted and quibbled away. That's what sinners do.

 

I guess the human mind needs to be awakened by things out of the ordinary, because it is happy to remain in a pattern or habit of thoughts and lifestyle, so that it will not change, or bother to change, unless something drastic or dramatic arrests the attention.

 

I had a brief look at signs and wonders, and it seems that a wonder is just that - something that makes you wonder, a puzzle, an attention grabbing event or saying.

 

The terms "signs" and "wonders" are often linked in the same sentence. A sign points to something wonderful about to happen, or currently happening. It may not be the miracle itself, but shows that something miraculous is happening.

 

The stars were made for signs - Genesis 1. They can tell us what is happening in the universe around us, if we were more intelligent.

 

Psalms says the stars are wonders of God. They are everlasting, connected and ordered, and express freedom, space and light.