Will there be mansions in heaven?

[Guest shiloh357]

how do you know that the Pharisees lived in what we would call mansions???    They might have lived in better housing than the average Israelite, but to project our concept of a mansion on them is really rather baseless unless you can provide some evidence.

 

And furthermore, the word used in Greek for the English word "mansion"  doesn't refer to a house.  It refers to a room or apartment.  The KJV word "mansion" is a poor translation.  

 

 

Where do you find in Scripture that heaven is divided into twelve countries????    I would like to see the verses that back up that assertion.   Where does the Bible say that everyone will belong to a tribe???  

 

I am thinking that this is false teaching that Christians need to reject

[Marilyn C]

Hi Shiloh357,

 

I agree with you. (Another good day, other one )

 

And to the general conversation -

 

As I have said before - Gold perishes (1 Peter 1: 7) (& precious jewels). Those are not what God builds with but `the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes.`

 

And it is our glorified body that the Apostle Paul says to the Body of Christ is `our house which is from heaven.` (2 Cor. 5: 2)

 

Heaven is not a better copy of earth. We will have glorified bodies like the Lord that can go through dimensions, that never wear out or get tired etc. Thus why do we need bedrooms, bathrooms, etc etc

 

Marilyn.

[Kan]

I was giving my reasons why I believe that mansions means just what it says, and that heaven has enough variety to cater for every need. Whatever else I have read is really not on topic, and goes on a tangent.

 

So I'll give a single starting verse to your Q about tribes, without giving the many texts available. Revelation 21:12.

 

And by the way, mansions comes from the word abodes, which in itself has no definition, however, the self indulgent mansions of earth has are not necessarily a reflection of Christian modesty which you are rightly implying, of which Christ is our example of, so it is very likely that the mansions will glorify God and not earth, in the sense that there will be designated areas that integrate buildings with their natural surroundings in a balanced way, to be picture perfect.

[Guest shiloh357]

Yes and your reasons for believing they are "mansions"  in the western, American sense of the word is not biblical

 

The other questions you can't answer because you have no basis for them.   Revelation 21:12 simply says that the gates are named after 12 tribes of Israel. It nowhere says that everyone will be assigned to a tribe.   That is just false teaching that we can soundly reject.

[Kan]

Yes and your reasons for believing they are "mansions"  in the western, American sense of the word is not biblical

 

The other questions you can't answer because you have no basis for them.   Revelation 21:12 simply says that the gates are named after 12 tribes of Israel. It nowhere says that everyone will be assigned to a tribe.   That is just false teaching that we can soundly reject.

 

I think it is unwise to say that before actually knowing any better.

 

You have accused me of having no basis for what I have posted, without any proof whatsoever, and also demanded to be given a comprehensive Bible study, while preparing a label of heresy for the one who would feed you.

 

That's interesting.

 

Where did you acquire these policies from?

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Kan,,,

     These are not 'policies ",but when you are stating things such as these as a "matter of fact' it is just reasonable that someone ask how you came to these conclusions......this being a Christian Ministry we are here united by our Faith.in our Lord Jesus .... ,we will always refer to Scripture & naturally ask"Where is that written ?"    WE are instructed by our Lord to never add to or subtract from what is Written and the things you shared are not found in the Scriptures,,,,,,,are these your interpretations or have you read these things from someplace in particular?, it is a very simple question,you do not have to answer the question but by youir response it seems very clear that you have mis-interpreted what you have read 

      WE come here and reason together,extol one another,encourage one another ,learn from one another & c orrect one another when we are in err,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this helps us to grow & be effective as one Body with Christ as our Head to go out & preach the Gospel to every creature,,,,,,,,,we have to warn each other of false teachings & look out for one another and to God be the Glory!

                                                                                                  With love-in Christ,Kwik

[Ezra]

mansion is not an actual translation, and the word would not have conjured up our definition of a mansion in the minds of the disciples.   When jesus spoke to his disciples, they were not thinking of 150 room palaces like we do.

"Mansion" is indeed one of the translations -- if not the most suitable -- for the Greek word mone:

 

Strong's Concordance

moné: an abiding, an abode

Original Word: μονή, ῆς, ἡ

Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine

Transliteration: moné

Phonetic Spelling: (mon-ay')

Short Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room

Definition: lodging, dwelling-place, room, abode, mansion.

 

What makes you so sure that Jesus was not speaking about mansions, since He was alluding to glorious dwelling places in Heaven, of which we have no concept?

 

Why could a heavenly mansion not be 100 times better than any earthly mansion?  After all they will accommodate kings and priests in the sight of God? To talk about niggardly "rooms" in such a splendid city is to do despite to the grace and generosity of God.  To dismiss "mansions" is to also dismiss the glorious and eternal inheritance which God has reserved for His saints, since that inheritance will be placed in those "mansions sublime".

[Kan]

Blessings Kan,,,

     These are not 'policies ",but when you are stating things such as these as a "matter of fact' it is just reasonable that someone ask how you came to these conclusions......this being a Christian Ministry we are here united by our Faith.in our Lord Jesus .... ,we will always refer to Scripture & naturally ask"Where is that written ?"    WE are instructed by our Lord to never add to or subtract from what is Written and the things you shared are not found in the Scriptures,,,,,,,are these your interpretations or have you read these things from someplace in particular?, it is a very simple question,you do not have to answer the question but by youir response it seems very clear that you have mis-interpreted what you have read 

      WE come here and reason together,extol one another,encourage one another ,learn from one another & c orrect one another when we are in err,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this helps us to grow & be effective as one Body with Christ as our Head to go out & preach the Gospel to every creature,,,,,,,,,we have to warn each other of false teachings & look out for one another and to God be the Glory!

                                                                                                  With love-in Christ,Kwik

 

That's totally understandable, but to cry "heretic" before a hearing is far too zealous. And I did state things as a matter of fact, because I took it for granted that the readers already knew.

Edited April 19, 2015 by Kan

[Kan]

Yes and your reasons for believing they are "mansions"  in the western, American sense of the word is not biblical

 

The other questions you can't answer because you have no basis for them.   Revelation 21:12 simply says that the gates are named after 12 tribes of Israel. It nowhere says that everyone will be assigned to a tribe.   That is just false teaching that we can soundly reject.

 

As I said, I'll just give you one text of many to start your personal studies. Rarely does one text say it all, you know that.

[jezikiah]

I believe we will never truly know what is heaven till we actually get there, we can debate, we can disscuss, but when it comes down too it, the only we will really know is when we arrive at the the doors of heave